Author Topic: got an axle for the SAS and need help! (Read 3976 times)

jared A · « **on:** Feb 21, 2005, 08:11:46 PM »

ok i got the axle a few minutes ago and i have some questions. it is an 85 4runner axle. i want to remove the disk breaks but dont know how and i also want to remove the steering stuff, but dont know if i remove it all or what? do i take off the arms? i am getting marlins SAS......thanks!

Hyena · « **Reply #1 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 08:20:13 PM »

You will need to take off the arms. just take the 4 nuts and 4 cones off the top of each arm. To take the brakes off you will need to take the caliper off by 2 17mm bolts on the caliper. Take the 6 10mm bolts off the hub, take the hub off. then snap ring. then the 6 12mm nuts, washers and cones. then there are 2 53mm nuts with a lock washer inbetween them. You will have to flip the flaps up so the washer isn't locking the nuts together. Then you can take the 2 nuts, bearing and rotor off the spindle. did i get it all? Anything else?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #2 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 08:25:22 PM »

The job will require the following:
1. 10mm wrench or ratchet and socket.
2. 12mm wrench or socket
3. 14mm ::
4. 17mm ::
5. 19mm ::
6. 54mm socket or a hammer and chisel will work in a pinch.
7. Brass drift
8. flat tipped screwdriver 1/4" blade

Take the 6 bolts that retain the hub cap& dial off using a 10mm. Next take the 6 nuts off that retain the hub body using a 12mm. To remove the cone washers put the brass drift next to the studs and hit the drift with a hammer a few times. The cone washers will pop off. Once the hub is totally off bend the tabs back that keep the wheel bearing adjuster nuts in place and using either the 54mm socket or a hammer and chisel loosen the nuts and remove them. Next using the 17mm remove the 2 bolts that retain the brake caliper. Now you can remove the rotor and hub assembley. There are 8 bolts that retain the spindle they are removed using a 14mm. Now that the spindle is off you can use the 10mm once again to remove the 8 bolts that retain the felt and seal for the backside of the knuckle. Next using the 17mm remove the 8 nuts that hold the steering arm and lower trunion bearing in place. The steering arms have cone washers too so you'll have to use the brass drift once again.

jared A · « **Reply #3 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 08:39:43 PM »

awesome...thanks! whats a brass drift? and a 54mm socket is really big, does sears have those?

to take out the 3rd member do i just unbolt it and pull it out or is there more to it than that?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #4 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 08:58:27 PM »

Also, instead of snap ring plyers use Lock Ring.
You can get the special tools from Marlin here: http://www.marlincrawler.com/axleparts.html

jared A · « **Reply #5 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 09:25:57 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on Feb 21, 2005, 08:58:27 PM

Also, instead of snap ring plyers use Lock Ring.
You can get the special tools from Marlin here: http://www.marlincrawler.com/axleparts.html

damn those are expensive!!!!!

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #6 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 09:55:04 PM »

Yes but they are worth every penny! And I just realized I forgot that step.

For the socket Marlin carries that as well.

ezthere · « **Reply #7 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 10:10:48 PM »

go down to your toyota dealer and buy a chiltons manual...After

and a box full of parts the manual will keep you're head straight.

Front vented disc....1980 FJ 60 front rotors worked for me..

Inspect the small bearing races under the steering arms..I found my Left upper pitted and galled..Replace the set...!

jared A · « **Reply #8 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 11:21:29 PM »

whats the brass thing and where do i get it.....this sxle is going to cost me some big $$$ should i wait till after i do the sas and everything to totally rebuild the axle? its to heavy to lift around right now

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #9 on:** Feb 21, 2005, 11:34:03 PM »

A brass drift is a piece of brass stock usually 1/2" diameter and about 6-8" long. I use brass ones because they will not leave marks of steel surfaces. The axle rebuild will only run a total of $257. Thats uncluding all the specialty tools From Marlins and all thebearings and seals. Hell that even includes new nuts and washers for the wheel bearings. Not too bad really. Ive already spent the $$ with Marlin for all the parts you'll need, he has the best quality and prices. Just do it right the first time, you'll thank me.

FATB0Y · « **Reply #10 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 12:41:24 AM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Feb 21, 2005, 11:34:03 PM

do it right the first time, you'll thank me.

jared A · « **Reply #11 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 07:42:08 AM »

Quote from: 03HDFATBOY on Feb 22, 2005, 12:41:24 AM

, im going down there this week to pick up my SAS and lift kit for the rear, i dont have enough money right now to spend 300 bucks, so i will have to get it after the sas, how hard is it to do? ive never done this before....is it dificult?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #12 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 07:55:07 AM »

You can download the whole 1985 Factory Service Manual here: http://pneumya.com/webdocs/xxx1985toyotatruckfsm.pdf
It will save your life.

jared A · « **Reply #13 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 07:59:18 AM »

i want to get the outside of the axle all cleaned up before i mount it, what stuff do i need to grind off, do you guys have any pictures? and is there any special way to paint it, like where i should not egt paint or is it all cool?

jared A · « **Reply #14 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 07:59:52 AM »

Quote from: jared A on Feb 22, 2005, 07:59:18 AM

i want to get the outside of the axle all cleaned up before i mount it, what stuff do i need to grind off, do you guys have any pictures? and is there any special way to paint it, like where i should not egt paint or is it all cool?

oh and thanks, but i already downloaded it!

FATB0Y · « **Reply #15 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 01:19:55 PM »

POST SOME PIX

jared A · « **Reply #16 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 04:11:32 PM »

of my axle?

jared A · « **Reply #17 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 08:04:12 PM »

i took off the steerting arms and now the knuckles are very loose, its supposer to be like that until i get the new arms from marlin right? if i take a pic of my axkle, can you guy put arrows on the stuff that needs to be cut off?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #18 on:** Feb 22, 2005, 09:35:49 PM »

Take the picture.

vatoyrunner · « **Reply #19 on:** Feb 23, 2005, 06:16:22 AM »

wow, maybe your in a little over your head?

jared A · « **Reply #20 on:** Feb 23, 2005, 06:42:03 AM »

i know how to do the SAS, i just dont know what to do with the axle, im 17 so this is my first......i learn while i go

heres the pics...

cgbemis · « **Reply #21 on:** Feb 23, 2005, 07:50:53 AM »

If I were you, I'd honestly find someone in your area to help you with this project. I know how to do a solid axle swap too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to trust my welding skill, my ability to make the proper measurements, etc. If you are asking the kinds of questions that you are, then you need to get some help with this.

jared A · « **Reply #22 on:** Feb 23, 2005, 02:05:43 PM »

Quote from: cgbemis on Feb 23, 2005, 07:50:53 AM

If I were you, I'd honestly find someone in your area to help you with this project. I know how to do a solid axle swap too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to trust my welding skill, my ability to make the proper measurements, etc. If you are asking the kinds of questions that you are, then you need to get some help with this.

i have someone helping me out withthe welding and stuff, i just wanted to doublde check what needed to come off the axle, which i belive to be in the first picture all the way tot he right on the top. and i have decided to rebuild the knuckles, and i bought some snap ring pliers at sears for way less than marlins, ill just have to buy the socket from them.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #23 on:** Feb 23, 2005, 02:17:17 PM »

Lifes a dance you learn as you go, sometimes you lead, sometimes you follow, dont worry 'bout what you dont know, lifes a dance you learn as you go

Sorry, had to get it out. Good luck man, I know how it feels to be in over your head, you just gotta keep swimming. Learn it now, you wont regret it, I wish I had $I\'m Down$

$Beer Chug\'n$

91Toyota4x4 · « **Reply #24 on:** Feb 24, 2005, 10:20:47 AM »

Nice gumabll machine!

jared A · « **Reply #25 on:** Feb 24, 2005, 05:09:33 PM »

i grinded allt he stuff off the axle that needed to go, now i just need to wire brush it and put a coat of paint on , and in the mean time find a way to get the IFS off without a plasma cutter or torch...?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #26 on:** Feb 24, 2005, 05:20:32 PM »

Sweet, what did you take off?
Pics?

jared A · « **Reply #27 on:** Feb 24, 2005, 06:27:18 PM »

i took off the tower thing for the old steering and the steering stablizer braket.. i was suppose to pick up the marlin kit saturday, but they STILL dont have all the parts so its gunna be another week or two

it looks just like this one, except they are grinded flush with the axle, i reallt need to rebuild those knuckles also!

Fireimp141 · « **Reply #28 on:** Feb 24, 2005, 09:04:14 PM »

I know how it feels to be in over your head, the first time i rebuilt my engine i went by the manual..

But anyways keep us posted cause imma do an SAS soon

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #29 on:** Feb 25, 2005, 01:03:38 AM »

Do yourself a huge favor and go to a very good welding shop to buy 4-5 GOOD quality grinding wheels and 5-10 VERY good skinny wheels. If you try and go cheap on the tools for taking all the ifs garbage off you'll hate life. 1st quality is the only way to go when you'll be using the grinder that much.

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