Topic: which first 5.29s or duals?

[scarecrow]

hey all which would be better for me for the first year or so wheelin. 5.29s or duals? i plan on doing both but i just dont have the coin to do em at the same time. so which would you rather have in a extra cab exo`d 85 4cyl 5 speed on 38s or 39s?....right now the rears have 4.10s in em so the previous owner says i have not checked yet.

[yjay]

If driving it on the street, I would say gears first. 39's and 4.10's would be a bit hard on clutches. Plus it would be kind of a turd. If strictly off road, I'd say duals.

[OOPS]

With that size tires, 5:29's either. Even so your gears are going to be a tall for wheeling.

[yjay]

A W56 with stock ratio duals and 4.10's in first low =84 to 1
With a single stock case and 5.29's =48 to 1
There is a downside either way, but stock duals would do pretty well off road I'd say with 4.10's.

[scarecrow [OP]]

no street 100% trail toy!

[yjay]

If you put a 4.7 kit in the rear case while you're in there you'd get 174 to one with 4.10's. I'm at 119 to 1 and I find it sufficient.
My Jeep was 36 to 1 so I feel like superman.

[OOPS]

no street 100% trail toy!

In that case, dual T-cases with 4.70's in the rear case.

[Phazertwo]

I would not even bother with gears at all if its a trail only rig.  Duals with 4.7's in the rear, and call it good!

PZ

[Russell_G]

Trail only= 4.7 with stock case

Road use = 5.29's

[scarecrow [OP]]

will it still have enuff to really spin the 38s in the mud without the 5.29s?

[Phazertwo]

will it still have enuff to really spin the 38s in the mud without the 5.29s?

Lol! That's funny!

No, nit with any gears

[yjay]

A 22r/re no matter what gearing you do whether it's t case, axles, or both is not going to be impressive in the mud in my opinion. There simply isn't the hp.
But then again I avoid mud like the plague so I have no first hand experience. All the people I know that are into that run big motors in old chevy trucks and the like.

[H8PVMNT]

Here's the thing... if you set your truck up right you won't need to spin in the mud.  I can creep through most of the "big mud holes" around here in 2WD low range.  I wouldn't worry about it unless you want to mud race...  in that case you don't wan't a Toyota anyhow unless it has a small block in it.

Any dummy can spin in the mud.  A well setup truck with good gearing, lockers and a good driver can wheel everything with ease.

[scarecrow [OP]]

no its not a racer or a bogger but if i come across a nice hole i am gonna wanna play. and when i say spin the tires i just mean enuff to clean em...i guess i can always look at it in the way if i get it done and dont like it i can put my 2.5 ton rockwells under it and the small block sitting in the corner of the garage..

[Jagdverband44]

Dude, 4.88s with 35s and a Dual with a 4.7 would be the most stout setup. Stick with a smaller sized tire like a 33 but a wide 33 and run duals first with the stock ratio in the diffs. I ran 32x11.50s,4.88s with dual 2.28s and lockers and its amazing how much more control you have over just a single 2.28. IMO with 39s, 5.29s, lockers and a stock case your going to be breaking things, so do the case first.