Topic: 22rte fuel injection same as 22re?

[Yotaman139]

is it the same? maybe looking to swap out the 22rte for just  reg 22re. what parts can use from the motor i got and how much for a new rebuilt 22re?

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[turbotoy]

  Since i have been down this road b4 i will say that there is alot of little differences between a re and rte, here are a few things that are diffrent pcm, afm, injectors, and ignitor. There are also a few extra sensors on the rte. If u want to swap a rte out for a re make sure u have the entire engine, wiring harness, afm, and ignitor. So pretty much u want the whole deal from another truck if u don't want a big head ache on your hands lol. You can also maybe check on 22rte-trucks.com they have helped me many of time with my rte motors.

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I didn't have any issues with mine.  Just spent a ton of research to see what was needed and not.

The only thing I had to do was, change out AFM box, one radiator hose, intake duct from AFM to throttle body, exhaust (manifold to cat), ECM and injectors.

[turbotoy]

  The truck that i swapped was a automatic so it may have been a little diffrent when it came to the harness. as for a rebuilt RE engine they go for about 1200 all the way up to 4 or 5 grand for a LC stroker unit. or u can just start with a used Re unit and freshen it up for around 400-500 bucks using engine builders stuff. But heck if u are gona spend the money i would just redo the turbo motor with good parts and have a motor that puts out around 250hp at the crank and b done with it. That's just me though. Since i re did my turbo motor i have had zero engine problems in 40,000 miles and i am not easy on it in the least bit. Just my 2 cents.

[Yotaman139 [OP]]

  The truck that i swapped was a automatic so it may have been a little diffrent when it came to the harness. as for a rebuilt RE engine they go for about 1200 all the way up to 4 or 5 grand for a LC stroker unit. or u can just start with a used Re unit and freshen it up for around 400-500 bucks using engine builders stuff. But heck if u are gona spend the money i would just redo the turbo motor with good parts and have a motor that puts out around 250hp at the crank and b done with it. That's just me though. Since i re did my turbo motor i have had zero engine problems in 40,000 miles and i am not easy on it in the least bit. Just my 2 cents.

how much did you spend on your turbo motor rebuild?

[turbotoy]

   When i built my motor i did budget build up on it but made sure i didn't skimp on the important things on these motors like a good head gasket and arp head studs. here is the following things i used when i rebuilt my motor. Keep in mind i did all the work myself to cut on cost.

ARP had studs (120.00)
SCE titan Head gasket (130.00)
Bottom end bearings (60.00)
Nippon racing pistons with molly rings (125.00 ebay)
HD timing chain kit (35.00 ebay)
Engine gasket kit (70.00 felpro)
Machine work (450.00, re do head, bore .40 over, tank and deck block, turn crank, check rods)
Turbo oil pump (90.00)
Misc. pieces parts (70.00)

So i had a total of about 1150 in my long block setup. This is about the same is going out and buying a re man long block. But it will all depend on how bad of shape your motor is in b4 u do the rebuild to on how much u will spend in the end. if u wanted to rebuild a turbo motor you should budget around 1300.00 to be safe.

[turbotoy]

Also keep in mind that when i built my motor i used a 130.00 dollar head gasket that u don't really need unless u plan on runng 13 psi or higher. u could just use a rock auto gasket that goes for around 50.00 for the entire engine gasket kit with head gasket. so that rite there would knock 150.00 dollars off the rebuild price.

I do know that u would probably want to do a  upgrade on the turbocharger setup as well like i did, it make a massive difference. here is my setup Keep in mind every bit of the work was done by me to cut cost. Also i didn't spair any cash when it came to this part and you could probly do a nice setup for half of what i spent and maybe even cheaper. Also keep in mind that u could spend 2000 dollars very quick when building this part.

Garret t3/t4 super 60 turbo w/.48 quick spool housing (600.00)
Custom intercooler setup (200.00)
Custom 3 inch exhaust and down pipe w/ mandrel pipes (100.00)
Custom top mount turbo manifold (65.00)
Steel braided oil feed and drain hoses (125.00)
Turbo XS rfl blow off valve (220.00)
Turbo XS boost controller (150.00)
Misc Parts( 250.00)

[turbotoy]

Im buliding a turbo motor setup for a 85 straight axle runner rite now and i made a tight budget of around 1600.00 for everything ( turbo setup and motor build) so it can be done for cheaper it just depends on what u want out of the motor. im going for about 200-210hp on this mild build.

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Garret t3/t4 super 60 turbo w/.48 quick spool housing (600.00)
Custom intercooler setup (200.00)
Custom 3 inch exhaust and down pipe w/ mandrel pipes (100.00)
Custom top mount turbo manifold (65.00)
Steel braided oil feed and drain hoses (125.00)
Turbo XS rfl blow off valve (220.00)
Turbo XS boost controller (150.00)
Misc Parts( 250.00)

This is the added reason why I didn't get my 22RTE rebuilt.  Cause the CT20's weren't that great.  The CT26 off Supra/Celica's were better factory units.  But you had to manufacture your own manifold.  Then there is the T3/T4 units like you have, and I really didn't want to go that route.  So, I just went with reliability.  About 1/3rd of everybody on this site that has ran a 22RTE, love them.  The rest really wished they hadn't wasted their time.  Most feel that if you want reliable power, do a 3RZ swap.  It's not 200+ hp, but it's constant throughout the rpm range.  I do know that the factory turbo spooled up around 2800 to 3000 rpm's, and I do most my driving on or off road under that.  So, a turbo wouldn't benefit me. 

[turbotoy]

I would totaly agree about 1/3 of the people likeing the 22rte engine due to the head gasket failures and turbocharger cracking problems. But i will say that when these motors are running rite they run very well. B4 i rebuilt my engine i hated the powerband that it had and most of it was due to lack of cmpression that these motors came with from the factory (7.5 to 1) so i put diffrent pistons in it that raised it to 8.6 to 1 and wow what a diffrence that was! the rte motor has alot of trial and error untill you find the rite combo. the way my truck is set up now i build 7psi by the time im at 2000 rpm due to the garret quick spool charger and im at 14psi by 3000 rpm. im normaly wheeling in the 1700 to 3500 range so that works perfect 4 me. this is my 6th rte engine so i have went through my error moments from blowing headgaskets left and rite to puting 3 turbos on in a week lol. I just cant pull myself away from the turbos rush of power. there is know better fealing than when you are getting ready to climb a nasty slick muddy hill and u know tha u can launchin in 3rd gaer 4low and never run out of power or when u are street driving this truck and unsuspectng honda is next to u and u can smokem with a big toyota on swampers. i dont know what kind of wheeling u do but im into the hill climbing and trails so if i was into rocks this setup probly wouldent be as good. like u said b4 running these engines are all personal prefrence by far. As for the 3rz swap that would b stone reliable swap into any 1st or 2nd gen yota

[231yota]

I'd go with the turbo any day of the week. Sure the turbo makes some heat but not the monster it's made out to be.  I've owned a few in stock form 6 to 7 lbs of boost coming in about 1500 to 1800 pretty reliable. I am in the process of building a new mud drag truck with a stocker just turning up the boost abit running megasquirt ecm in an 83 maybe injectors depends on dyno. I can still run stock 4 banger class on up to mod v8 and b competitive nothing better than taking a $2500 truck and spanking a guy that has that or more in just his motor.