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On another thought, i know laws change place by place but.... I was told that a concealed weapon is by definition armed. ( maybe not one in the chamber but a magazine full and ready.) Does this mean that i can conceal an unloaded weapon without a permit? say gun under seat, clip in the glove box. By the same person i was told that it is fine to carry a loaded weapon if not accessible by the driver?
I don't see where he said he'd carry 3 guns You can't have any rounds in the gun while moving on a public road, loosely defined as a dirt road though it's not really enforced, and short of having a cwp you can't ever have a round in the chamber unless you're stopped and loading to go shoot.
Those are some huge welds!
I dont mind open carry, i would rather know if someone has a weapon than not lol.....Little story on Concealed Carry License however. I have a Friend that has a CCL and is EX military also. (around 40yrs old) Well in Oregon the dmv knows you have a CCL so when they run your plates it pops up on there screen... He was on a very well traveled road, with two of his kids, and got pulled over doing 60-65 MPH (limit is 55). Well the cops must have thought he was a threat because they approached him with guns drawn (but not pointed at him) and made him get out of the vehicle and get pat down. then they made him take his 9mm pull the clip/slid/handle apart throw it on the hood (while its lightly raining), and when he told them that he had a 45 in the back they made him do the same..... Then they took all his info and told him to sit in his truck.... They took there time (as usual lol) and wrote him a warning (very rare to not get a ticket around here).... Then they told him to get back in the truck and wait until they drove off and around the corner before he got out to get his now soaked dissembled guns off the hood. ...Now to me this may be a bit extreme, considering i have seen the dash cam from this stop and it didnt seem to me there would be any reason for them to be so paranoid... IMHO this would be considered discrimination, because they KNEW he MIGHT have a gun they treated him differently than then if they may have just thought he might have a gun. I am almost 100% sure if he would not have had a CCL he would have just got a ticket/warning whatever and been on his way. So if getting a concealed carry license means im going to get harassed then F THAT.... On that note, i always have a 22lr in my trucks when i go ... well, anywhere.... i also carry my 308 whenever i leave the pavement. . .and i have never had a problem, i guess they dont consider a rifle a threat
Ive been stopped more times then I can remember with a gun, in oregon and washington. Only 2 times have I been asked if I actually had it on me, never had to get out of my truck or hand it over. I do know attitude makes a difference, if you have a shitty one it causes problems. And yes I have a ccl for each state.
I think it also has to do with the cop's comfort level with guns, and his own personal sense of security in dealing with people. I've had cops call for back up and treat me with a high level of distrust simply due to my size, and others who have been more interested in my truck, dirtbike, gun, etc. than what I did wrong.
Im 6-3, I dont think size is factor. I did get stopped once with my ar-15 sitting in a gun case in the passenger sit. I was out of the car when I was stopped. I just got home, cops were driving by following me cuz I had a broke window. They were looking at me, I stared at them, thought I might know them or something, dad was a cop. But I didnt, so as Im getting stuff out they backed up and asked for id, insurance etc. So I told them insurance is in the glove compartment, and there is a gun there in the seat, so I made them get it. They just thanked me, very nicely, one asked what it was, and then said they are really nice guns and likes them. I thinks its all about attitude. and Ill say it, Im white I think that makes a big difference too. I dress "normal" not like a thug or gang banger, no tats, so Im sure that has something to do with it.
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