Topic: If George Bush was an idiot...

[sweetmeat]

Did you ever notice that Obama makes speech's and tells us what he's going to do and that Bush had news conferences with the press with question and answer sessions? Don't see very many of those these days, I think he's just a Hollywood scripted talking head that can't think outside the box or should I say teleprompter.

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[peacesells]

wheres the thread for people who dont like bush or obama?

[emsvitil]

Start one..............


 

[kneedownnate]

Well, I do think this is one for those who don't like obama.

[GreenYoterKrawler]

Hey i too am a Dubya supporter and not an Obama fan, but who I'm really disappointed in is the American people, Cali voted in Schwarzenegger for Gov because hes a famous Actor, and look at our budget crisis and many, many other issues *cough cough* Killed smog law bill, and Now look at the rest of the US, voting in Obama because of the color of his skin. WTF America, were supposed to pick our leaders for what they will do for our country, Not for what they are. i just hope america will realize their stupidity before the next election...    the Free & the Brave, not the stupid

[46&2]

Hey i too am a Dubya supporter and not an Obama fan, but who I'm really disappointed in is the American people, Cali voted in Schwarzenegger for Gov because hes a famous Actor, and look at our budget crisis and many, many other issues *cough cough* Killed smog law bill, and Now look at the rest of the US, voting in Obama because of the color of his skin. WTF America, were supposed to pick our leaders for what they will do for our country, Not for what they are. i just hope america will realize their stupidity before the next election...   the Free & the Brave, not the stupid

He's working hard to get the race based votes again for 2012....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39250950/ns/politics-decision_2010

Seriously, can you even imagine what would happen if a white official called on all "white leaders".... 

[peacesells]

I just read through this thread again, and even though im sure 90% or more of the people on this forum are Bush supporters and Obama haters, I think it is in extremely bad taste for bigmike to be posting up political , especially ignorant garbage like this on the marlin crawler site. Think of the effect it has on your buisness, no potential gain, only potential loss.

Even if you dont like obama, he is still the president of your country. Don't give me that "he's not my president" bull , go move to another country if thats your attitude... Either he's your president, or you aren't and American dip ... I did'nt like when people talked about george bush even though I think he is one of the worst presidents this country ever had, he was still the president of the United States of America... I dont like the bull racist obama jokes that go around, I dont like a lot of what he's done, and I dont care for the guy nor respect his history in politics much, but I dont think its right to slander the current leader of your country PERIOD. Ok if your guy lost, show up and vote next time... What do you think other countries see when they look at americans bashing their own president for the last 10+ years? A strong country? BULL

If more people took the time to look at whats really going on in our country instead of watching bull crap youtube videos of the president saying 57 instead of 47, maybe this country could get somewhere. As of now, all I see in this thread is ignorance and poor judgment breeding from nearly every poster. Instead of spending all of your valuble time bashing the guy you don't like, why don't you promote the guy that you do like? Because its easier to hate than it is to find the facts, think for yourself, and make your own descisions (by the way, you wont find the facts on cnn, fox news, or msnbc).

Ignorance breeds ignorance my friends, and its a shame to see what my country is turning into because of democrats and republicans attitudes towards one another.

[peacesells]

and Now look at the rest of the US, voting in Obama because of the color of his skin. WTF America, were supposed to pick our leaders for what they will do for our country, Not for what they are. i just hope america will realize their stupidity before the next election...    the Free & the Brave, not the stupid

Where are your facts supporting that stament? If anything, he lost a lot of votes because of the color of his skin buddy. Racism still exists...

What if Hillary Clinton was elected instead of Obama? would it be JUST because she is a woman?

[Rocksurfer]

I thought this was about Bush not Obama, any who if we all just fell in line and blindly followed whoever steps in the whitehouse we'd have ourselves a king or dictator. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the current or past presidents and if they could not express this then we are lost as a country. Lets all fall in line and be a sheep. Sorry that's not the way it works, thats why this is a free country. Free to even confront our president without fear of being shot. I really get tired of the if you don't like it get out mentallity.

[gnob]

all of you are assholes.
bush is/was just as big a clown as this guy.

one day you all are going to turn off the "news" and realize that nothing they have been telling you is even close to the truth.

do you know why there is a democratic party and a republican party. . .?

its because it gives the moronic american public something to keep them fighting with each other over, instead of going to  washington to fix the REAL problem.

obama isnt in charge of this country any more than W was or W's dad.  
my guess is that we havent had a legitimate president in any of our lifetimes.
and until we take the country back, we never will.

so heres an idea STFU!!!!

[peacesells]

I thought this was about Bush not Obama, any who if we all just fell in line and blindly followed whoever steps in the whitehouse we'd have ourselves a king or dictator. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the current or past presidents and if they could not express this then we are lost as a country. Lets all fall in line and be a sheep. Sorry that's not the way it works, thats why this is a free country. Free to even confront our president without fear of being shot. I really get tired of the if you don't like it get out mentallity.

This thread is "so if you thought Bush was an idiot, look at how big of an idiot Obama is." You are definately entitled to you opinion, as am I, and thats what my posts are. It is my opinion that you are only adding to problem. Instead of spreading hate, why not take the time to promote the guy you like? You use the term "sheep" as someone who blindly follows. I see more blind support behind the tea parties than anywhere else in america... Good friends of mine who ONLY watch fox news, ONLY listen to republican radio, and therefore ONLY get fed fear and hate every day are outraged at the president based only on what their favorite media personalities say about him. That is not "being a sheep?"

"To believe with certainty, you must begin by doubting" Is a powerful statment

You must know as much about what you oppose as you do about what you support. Im lookin around, all I see are a bunch of "sheep" on one side or the other...

[peacesells]

all of you are :moon:s.
bush is/was just as big a clown as this guy.

one day you all are going to turn off the "news" and realize that nothing they have been telling you is even close to the truth.

do you know why there is a democratic party and a republican party. . .?

its because it gives the moronic american public something to keep them fighting with each other over, instead of going to  washington to fix the REAL problem.

obama isnt in charge of this country any more than W was or W's dad. 
my guess is that we havent had a legitimate president in any of our lifetimes.
and until we take the country back, we never will.

so heres an idea STFU!!!!

Gnob, this is one of the many points im getting at.

[abnormaltoy]

all of you are assholes.


so heres an idea STFU!!!!

Wow! You really know how to debate, how to convince others of the strength of your point of view! Whatever you said between those two lines was lost.

So, here's one for you...learn to communicate.

[Rocksurfer]

I would consider myself somewhere in the middle which to me means lack of being a sheeple. I believe in parts of both sides but when it comes to extreme liberalism and extreme conservatism I'll take the conservatives since there intensions are not to reinvent the clock. Extreme liberalism wants to make us dependent on government which is wrong and socialist in nature. I won't say that this is what they want but they do want and always have wanted our dependency on them thus making them unexpendable. Even with that they come up with programs such as the new healthcare but it is actually forced on you and you have to still pay for it or be fined. First time ever that this has happened, who knows what is next that will be forced upon us. So now if I can't afford the over $5,000.00 a year to insure my family I will be fined $1000.00 for each dependent that I have and don't insure. Then add insult to injury those that are below a certain income get a free ride at my expense so now not only am I paying for my family I have to help pay for even more.

Oh and it dosen't help your point to call people names, it just shows that you truely don't know and understand what is really happening to you.

Sure the target is the current president but isn’t that the point? Isn’t Mike right in what he is pointing out that the liberal media does not paint the elected officials they support in a bad light? I watch both liberal and conservative media outlets and it is funny as hell that an incident that happens to a democrat is down-played or not even broadcast but if it is a republican, independent or other group outside of theirs is played to death? Then if you watch conservative media they not only give you both sides but they will hang a republican as quick as a democrat. Sure they still lean right in their reporting but if the facts bare fruit then you will hear it.

I take all reporting from both sides with a grain of salt and make my own decision on what really is going on and not just whose spin is better. Mike is right on what would happen in the media if it were a republican not just Bush that suggested or did those things.

I don’t know if you realize it but the left is bound and determined to slowly shut you out of what everyone here loves to do in their spare time. So if that is what you want then you might as well sell me your rig now since you won’t need it much longer and will be joining the Sierra Club.

This country is founded on our differences and the party system, president and houses of congress is what keeps one side or the other in check without it we’d either be a dictatorship like Iraq was or a religious oppressed country like Iran.   

I love my country for all of  its differences in people and cultures. I embrace them all, though my Indian neighbors food stinks & I hate rap and don’t consider it music. 

[gnob]

guys, when you find the unbiased media channels let me know.
rocksurfer, way to talk in circles.  you apparently lost site of all the republican mud slinging i.e. the clinton years.

everyone has a right to their opinion.  i get soooo tired of this lets jump on the back of, or lets jump on the candidates side.

the reality guys, is that they could give a about you.  they want you to pay taxes till you die so they dont have to pay you SSN.

if you want to post this in a comic relief fine.

but this wasnt posted in this manner.

and as much as you guys want to think the sierra club is all dems or wtfe.
when they close the door, its closed and both sides are standing on the other side.

the government isnt about whats right or whats wrong, its about whos giving the biggest kickback for their own agenda.

if sierra club came to the reps with a big enough check, the door would be closed today.

pull your heads out of the sand.

abnormaltoy i know truth hurts. it can be hard for simps to understand.

[abnormaltoy]

abnormaltoy i know truth hurts. it can be hard for simps to understand.

We probably don't differ in our outlooks as much as you might think.

But, you appear to be an internet punk. You can't put your ideas forth without trying to insult peoples intelligence. When you grow an intellectual pair...we'll talk.

[gnob]

with all due respect, did you read the rest of this thread.

generally reason doesnt go over well in a political "debate".

i know you read my post though, and thats all that really matters.

one day youre going to think back,  damn it, gnob was right, even if he was an "internet punk"

[Rocksurfer]

If George W. Bush had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in just one year, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?
 

If George W. Bush joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was on?
 

If George W. Bush had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one company had an accident would you have agreed?
 

If George W. Bush had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87,000 American workers unemployed, would you support him?
 

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?


If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of mentally challenged at the Special Olympics, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?


If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?


If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States, would you have said that he is clueless?


If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in Texas, would you have thought he was a self-important, conceited, egotistical jerk?


If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?


If George W. Bush had misspelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoes as proof of what a dunce he is?


If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?


If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan, causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?


If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?


If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 "Czars" who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

[abnormaltoy]

Here is a funny one. Go Joe and Bill (and I don't mean Biden or Clinton  )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Dkq8Nc9oc

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/F4Dkq8Nc9oc?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/F4Dkq8Nc9oc?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>

[Rocksurfer]

Crap, no sound at work.

[Coastie]

i really cant say much about the thread since I'm active of duty......but Big Mike i'll be in on Monday to buy more items.......

[sandfantom]

And what if George W. Bush had not been president at all.........Then,  how would you look at Barrack Hussain Obama

[abnormaltoy]

And what if George W. Bush had not been president at all.........Then,  how would you look at Barrack Hussain Obama

I would see him the same way...an inept, radical leftist who, if he had a different ideology, could have used the enthusiasm behind his election to effect real, substantive change.

[Rocksurfer]

 

[Redbeard1]

Buck Ofama!

[abnormaltoy]

Buck Ofama!

I like it...it's juvenile, just like the Bush version, but I like it! 

[GreenYoterKrawler]

Hes an Obamanation