$1200

[reddevil500]

I found a guy selling a stock suspension 85 Pickup 22r 5 speed 4x4, he wants $1200. Its yellowish tanish color. Needs the following or will need soon: water pump, thermostat, front and rear brakes, some wires under hood soldered or replaced and heat shrinked, whole power steering set up (HAS NONE), passenger side mirror, drivers side door trim (the one that keeps the water from coming into the middle of door, 2 years of past due tags, smog. Its in what i think is fair condition. It's on 31's alright shape, Dash is missing 1 vent but really dirty inside. Back sliding window has no lock. A few wires just hanging there from stereo being puled out i think. He says it does not pass smog because it needs a exhaust manifold gasket. He also says something about it not burning all the fuel, something with the carb. I turned it on let it run for a WHILE to see if it did funny thing, i drove it and drives good, idles good and sounds bad ass. They swapped the motor from a wrecked pickup. I really want to get it but i only want to offer him $700 maybe $800. What do you guys think would be fair or what would be a good offer if you were in my shoes. Thanks

[b-radhutch]

1200 and it needs all that work....... thats rediculas

[79coyotefrg]

[reddevil500]

yeah thats what i said, but other then that crap i would have to fix it runs like a champ! Thats why i'm thinking $700

[madmax886]

i would probably do 500 to 700 but still would be annoyed... my  

[reddevil500]

Yeah $500 to $700 sounds good, I'm just hoping he breaks down and takes it. I really want to get that truck. I even have a connect on a whole power steering setup already for $100 complete. The power steering is the one thing that i was all HELL NO about.

[b-radhutch]

ya i dont have power sterring yet and it sux but no money no power steering

[reddevil500]

ya i dont have power sterring yet and it sux but no money no power steering

what year is your rig? when i went to see the truck i thought somebody took the power steering off because i didn't know 4x4 pickups weren't available without PS

[b-radhutch]

85 and my buddys 94 doesnt have it either they are both 4x4's and toyotas

[reddevil500]

85 and my buddys 94 doesnt have it either they are both 4x4's and toyotas

thats crazy its like seriously the original owner could have payed what probably wasn't even that much more for PS

[b-radhutch]

thats crazy its like seriously the original owner could have payed what probably wasn't even that much more for PS

ya probly but if your just useing it for a dd and stock with 31s or 32s its not so bad only time it sux is when u r makieng u-turns and you are in parking lots other than that its not so bad

[reddevil500]

yeah your right but once you start hitting those off road trails even light ones your gonna start regretting you even went out there. do you have any type of lift on your 85?

[b-radhutch]

ya i think 2-3 inchs ive only had the truck for hb 7-8 months but if u wanted to have power steering just go to the junk yard find yourself an old power steering pump with the res and than find an IFS power steering box and than get high steer

[reddevil500]

thats what i was thinking but do you think i can get it off a 2wd or does it have to be a 4x4 because where i live there isn't any 4x4's in the junkyard

[b-radhutch]

the ps pump and res?

[reddevil500]

if i found a whole power steering setup off a 2wd do you think that would work?

[b-radhutch]

the pump and res might but id recomend the 4wd ps box supost to be stronger

[SocalWheeler71]

I don't think a 2wd PS box will bolt up to a 4wd frame, at least not an IFS frame (I know you have SA, just saying). An IFS box will take a little fab and you'll want to go that route eventually. You can use the pump/bracket/reservior from a 2wd, not sure about the hoses, but you can get new ones from autozone or napa. Even if you just want to just throw on a push/pull PS setup, you could find a power box easily on here because everyone does IFS/highsteer.

[reddevil500]

I don't think a 2wd PS box will bolt up to a 4wd frame, at least not an IFS frame (I know you have SA, just saying). An IFS box will take a little fab and you'll want to go that route eventually. You can use the pump/bracket/reservior from a 2wd, not sure about the hoses, but you can get new ones from autozone or napa. Even if you just want to just throw on a push/pull PS setup, you could find a power box easily on here because everyone does IFS/highsteer.

yeah it probably would be a good idea to get the new hoses and i am gonna head the IFS/highsteer way

[b-radhutch]

yup just do it right the first time so you dont have to spend more down the road

[Plekto]

Offer him $1200 if he makes it pass smog.  Otherwise keep looking.

[Snowtoy]

Looking at the list of items it needs, it looks like about $1k of work(parts and your labor), maybe more once you start tearing into it, so I would offer $500 and see where that gets you.

[reddevil500]

Looking at the list of items it needs, it looks like about $1k of work(parts and your labor), maybe more once you start tearing into it, so I would offer $500 and see where that gets you.

yeah thats true i think i am gonna offer him like $500 to start off with!

[axled89]

the list you named sounds kinda long.   500$$ is a great start.   all he can say is no.   :eyebrow:right.

[reddevil500]

exactly thats all he can say, but like they say MONEY TALKS i can already see myself 

[Sparkplug]

500 for a running, drivin yota, is too low, in my eyes. Its worth at least 7-800. You could have all that work done in a day, and it wouldnt cost 1000 bucks, not even close. My deciding factor would be if the body is good, and the frame is solid. The ps issue, Id just drive it till you get it, my pully seized, and I unhooked mine for about 6 months, and driving the lil guy around wasnt hard at all, only got noticeable in a parking lot. My 2 cents....

[reddevil500]

you have a good point! now a days any car costs $1000. But it does run and the body is there. its just all that other little stuff...

[Snowtoy]

But it isn't running and drivable, it needs to be registered/fix the exhaust/carb, and pass smog, before you can drive it. Here in CA back fees and smog test alone will easily cost you $300. more if you have to replace/rebuild the carb, and if it has been running rich the cat would also need to be replaced and possibly the O2 sensor(if CA equipped).

....water pump, thermostat, front and rear brakes, some wires under hood soldered or replaced and heat shrinked, whole power steering set up (HAS NONE), passenger side mirror, drivers side door trim (the one that keeps the water from coming into the middle of door, 2 years of past due tags, smog. Its in what i think is fair condition. It's on 31's alright shape, Dash is missing 1 vent but really dirty inside. Back sliding window has no lock. A few wires just hanging there from stereo being puled out i think. He says it does not pass smog because it needs a exhaust manifold gasket. He also says something about it not burning all the fuel, something with the carb.

All this little stuff(new price not bone yard) and the time needed(shop labor, not your free labor) to put it all back together would easily cost $1k, and that is what you factor into the cost of a rig, not what you can do by yourself for cheap.  Also given its age, it likely needs the front/rear axles rebuilt, possibly a clutch, slave, cyls, master cyl., fluid, etc, all of this needs to be factored into your purchase price.  Having restored several '80's era Toyota's over the last 8yrs the one thing they all had in common, was they all needed more work done than the seller was aware of, or claimed.

A few years ago(Sellers market) the '85 would have likely sold w/in days for about $2k in its current condition, but it is a buyers market now, and $500 is a good price to begin with, you can always offer more.  You have spoken with him about the truck so you have an idea of what kind of person he is, what his financial situation may be like, if you feel $500 is too low, than start with $600.

[reddevil500]

But it isn't running and drivable, it needs to be registered/fix the exhaust/carb, and pass smog, before you can drive it. Here in CA back fees and smog test alone will easily cost you $300. more if you have to replace/rebuild the carb, and if it has been running rich the cat would also need to be replaced and possibly the O2 sensor(if CA equipped).All this little stuff(new price not bone yard) and the time needed(shop labor, not your free labor) to put it all back together would easily cost $1k, and that is what you factor into the cost of a rig, not what you can do by yourself for cheap.  Also given its age, it likely needs the front/rear axles rebuilt, possibly a clutch, slave, cyls, master cyl., fluid, etc, all of this needs to be factored into your purchase price.  Having restored several '80's era Toyota's over the last 8yrs the one thing they all had in common, was they all needed more work done than the seller was aware of, or claimed.

A few years ago(Sellers market) the '85 would have likely sold w/in days for about $2k in its current condition, but it is a buyers market now, and $500 is a good price to begin with, you can always offer more.  You have spoken with him about the truck so you have an idea of what kind of person he is, what his financial situation may be like, if you feel $500 is too low, than start with $600.

AMEN! Thats all i gotta say