Back Problems

[toyotanner]

okay so i was tugging on an engine hoist  that was not moving so it was probably straining my back pretty bad i didnt feel any pain when i was done but later that night my back started to become painful, probably pretty close to the middle of the back is where the pain was. the pain will strike from my spine to my shoulderblade sometimes

i had my g/f pop my back and that made it worse it seemed... for the first 2-3 days i could barely move now i can basically do everything like jump stretch but when im just sitting in my car driving and hit a bump it hurts like hell sometimes haha. its been about 10 days now.

well basically i'm just trying to get an opinion on what some of you guys think that have had bad backs before on what it might be... of course i would go to the doctor but no insurance

[jonathan82toy]

I have back pain as well     I now have a stretching routine, it made things much better.     

[toyotanner]

yeah i was gonna start stretching to see if that would help fix this problem  but im kinda waitin cause if its like a pulled or torn muscle i dont wanna stretch it to soon

[bigarms23]

go to a chiropractor and have them check you out

[toyotanner]

go to a chiropractor and have them check you out

yeah my dad wants to send my to his chiropractor but i have no $ lol

[crawlerdad]

Stretch. Do the girl push ups where you keep your pelvis on the ground. and then stand up and bend over to touch your toes. Chiropractors are a temporary fix they want you to come back over and over $$$$$$. Go see your doctor if it doesn't get better. Swimming seems to be good for everything your body doesn't have to support all your weight.

[abnormaltoy]

Stretch. Do the girl push ups where you keep your pelvis on the ground. and then stand up and bend over to touch your toes. Chiropractors are a temporary fix they want you to come back over and over $$$$$$. Go see your doctor if it doesn't get better. Swimming seems to be good for everything your body doesn't have to support all your weight.

That's an old stereotype, I saw one for a while, about 12 years ago, before I had my insurance kicked in...he only charged me $10 a visit. It worked wonders, for me anyway, I haven't been back in years.

My favorite type of doctors are DOs...they can prescribe like an MD, but have some of the practices of Chiros.

[crawlerdad]

$10 is a cheap visit my buddy sees a guy for $60 a visit. For $10 I would go once a month.

[00taco]

Sounds like you have a strained muscle and what is happening is that it is inflamed.  when it is inflamed it will be painful and there is a good possibility that the muscle is in a knot.  If you are going to a chiro make sure they are going to do some kind of lazer or massage therapy after the pop and snap.  The lazer and massage therapy will reduce inflammation.  If you cant find one like that call around for a Sports Medicine or Physical Therapy place.

[toyotanner]

Sounds like you have a strained muscle and what is happening is that it is inflamed.  when it is inflamed it will be painful and there is a good possibility that the muscle is in a knot.  If you are going to a chiro make sure they are going to do some kind of lazer or massage therapy after the pop and snap.  The lazer and massage therapy will reduce inflammation.  If you cant find one like that call around for a Sports Medicine or Physical Therapy place.

thanks for the input i was thinking it was something like that just i wasn't thinking of the inflammation.

can strained muscles just heal themselves? anything special i could do?

[00taco]

thanks for the input i was thinking it was something like that just i wasn't thinking of the inflammation.

can strained muscles just heal themselves? anything special i could do?

Ya but you need rest, ice and take an anti inflamitory. Massage would be good and you can do some hamstring and back stretches also. I did something similar trying to fit my MC rear bumper on!

[79coyotefrg]

the best thing you can do  is have someone, (girlfriend works well here)  massage the are, where it hurts is where you need the massage

my chiropractor (treats me for showing him how to fix his cars) gave me a couple tennis balls, you can use one to put between your back and a wall and move it around

also, get some magnesium supplement pills, magnesium is the natural muscle relaxer

go see your dad's chiro and talk to him, maybe he needs his car fixed

[79coyotefrg]

Ice on for 10 minutes then off for 10 minutes  repeat till it relaxes the muscle

[toyotanner]

haha hmm i guess i could start sabotaging his car knowing i know how to fix whats wrong with it

thanks for all the input so far guys i'm gonna start trying to get this thing worked out

[00taco]

Ice on for 10 minutes then off for 10 minutes  repeat till it relaxes the muscle

better to go 20min on 20 off. instead of a bag of ice fill dixie cups and freeze them and have the lady rub the frozen cup of ice on the sore spot until no more ice then let it rest for 20 min then repeat.  This method will work a lot faster than the conventional bag of ice.

[toyotanner]

so about these anti inflammatory pills and magnesium pills are these over the counter or do i need prescription?

[00taco]

so about these anti inflammatory pills and magnesium pills are these over the counter or do i need prescription?

I like Mortin the best but IB Profin works good also

[79coyotefrg]

yes  they are on the shelf,  no Rx needed 

dont take too many of the magnesiums at a time cause you'll go

[bigarms23]

i use bayer back and body but also put an icepack on the inflamed area for 20 mins and that should help also

[*FFC*]

I fell at work in the parking lot and my back/hip is still messed up. I usually just deal with it - and yeah, the almost worst part for me is driving and doing dishes If I can't deal I just take Tylenol

[junya92toy]

I hate it when the dishwasher breaks!

[*FFC*]

I hate it when the dishwasher breaks!

Even filling the dishwasher is killer for me... I think dishes are the worst come to think of it

I told my husband that I'm allergic to doing dishes and laundry - so now it's his job








Yes, I'm still doing dishes and laundry

[toyotanner]

yeah dishes suck... i was doing the dishes the other day and after about 5 minutes i had to like bend over after every 2 dishes to stretch my back its horrible

[junya92toy]

Sounds like yall need some kids

[catfish]

freeze bacon in a ziploc, place frozen bacon on sore mussles until thawed, fri bacon

bob

www.extremewheelers4christ.org

[Trunkz]

I like Mortin the best but IB Profin works good also

motrin is just a brand name for ibprofin

[junya92toy]

I think Mr FFC needs to find a new dishwasher

[unclejpl4x4]

O k Ok well what U need 2 do is 1 not make it any fing worse .

I have been fighting with back pain for the last few yrs.  I really got watch what i do.   I was in pain for a while then woke up one night to pee  bam i was on the floor for 4hrs crying like a baby unable to move.  since then nothing but trouble.

1. go to the DR
2. DO the stretches
3. ice pack  then heat
4. NO lifting at all NOthing
5. make sure your bed is not fup it will make things worse. 

[germ]

Sorry I'm jumping in so late, but thought I'd add my $0.02 to the whole mix, since this is what I do.

Overall, good advice. I personally recommend heat and ice, especially this far out. Do ice for 10-15 minutes, then heat for 10-15 min then ice again. Try to do 3-4 times a day. (morning, lunch, dinner and bedtime). You can do it as long as you'd like, meaning, you can repeat the cycle as many times as you wish. The key is starting and ending with ice. this does 2 things for you, 1st, it reduces the inflammation (ice), but the bodies natural response to cold is to send more blood to warm up the cold tissue. Then you put the heat on, which get the tissue to dilate, and the blood pools, allowing time for nutrient transfer into the tissue, and removal of metabolic waste. Then putting the ice back on, causes the tissue to contract, squeezing out the old blood, and then triggering the body to shunt blood there again. You effectively triple the blood flow to the area.

Next is stretching. When you strain a muscle, it believes that it needs to spasm in order to protect itself from rupture and further damage. You need to gently remind the muscle tissue that it can now start to relax. There are plenty of resources on the web for doing GENTLE stretches and excercises for the lower back and neck. The key here is to take the stretch to the point just before it starts to hurt. If it hurts, then you're aggravating the tissue, and that is working backwards. I recommend stretching at least 2-3 times per day. Several of them can be done while doing other things, meaning you don't have to stop what your doing for a stretching session. You can do some while at work, sitting at a stop light etc.

Medications: Ibuprofen, motrin, IB-profen are all the exact same product with different names. They all contain 200mg of Ibuprofen (the active ingredient). You can use over the counter medication just fine. Its no different than the prescription stuff, just a lower dose. Maximum dose is 2400 milligrams per 24 hour period. I usually dose my patients with 800mg every 8 hours, but you can also do 600mg every 6 hours. There is also naprosyn sodium (Alleve, Naprox, Naprosyn etc). Typically the OTC dose is 200-375mg per pill (double check on your bottle though). Max dose is 1500mg per day. Both of these can be very upsetting to the stomach, so take with food. They both can lead to serious ulcers, so I always recommend the lowest effective dose for the shortest time needed. There are also prescription muscle relaxants (flexeril, soma, Skelaxin etc), which many find helpful in the early stages, but often they don't provide much relief after the first couple of weeks. then there is the narcotic pain medication. If you've made it this far without them, you prolly don't need them now.

The typical muscle strain takes between 3-9 weeks to resolve, depending on how bad the injury is, and how aggressive you are with treatment. Most people who continue to have pain longer, are either re-injuring the muscle, or have a more serious injury. If there is any numbness, tingling or weakness in the legs, or if you're getting abdominal pain, or loss of control of you bladder, it's time to see a professional.

Hope that helps some. If you have any other questions, let me know.

Erik

[kneedownnate]

The typical muscle strain takes between 3-9 weeks to resolve, depending on how bad the injury is, and how aggressive you are with treatment. Most people who continue to have pain longer, are either re-injuring the muscle, or have a more serious injury. If there is any numbness, tingling or weakness in the legs, or if you're getting abdominal pain, or loss of control of you bladder, it's time to see a professional.

This helps to explain why I never fully recover from back injuries.  I'm never 100% again, and rarely go a week or two before straining or hurting my back again, and a few times a year it seems to be more of an nerve issue that completely lays me up, though the doctors I've gone to always try and pass it off as just a muscle strain, though I figure that's cause I've only gone to the doc when it's happened at work.