Author Topic: massive antarctic ice shelf set to break (Read 17166 times)

superyota · « **Reply #60 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 10:47:44 AM »

here is another one from USGS with a little more info on co2 levels
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/2007/07_02_15.html

and this one has a few charts, check them out.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying we shouldn't do anything and not worry about ruining what we have, but regardless of what we do, the earth is going to take its course.

on another note, all this information is based on science based on evolution. evolution based science is what is taught in school and is what i learned and also what i have to use at work, but personally i believe in science from a creation point of view. thats another can of worms in itself and i won't get into it.

94MtnYote · « **Reply #61 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 12:32:15 PM »

Quote from: BigMike on Apr 10, 2009, 09:54:20 AM

You've gotta have a CRAP LOAD of faith to follow some chart that shows "thousands of years"

Scientists can determine what the air was made of thousands of years ago by drilling deep into ice, and collecting core samples with air bubbles trapped within. So maybe the chart does have some accuracy.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #62 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 01:41:58 PM »

Just a thought but I find it smart to NEVER trust the "science" of a person that stands to profit immensely from the mass's abiding by what they say...

46&2 · « **Reply #63 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 02:01:03 PM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Apr 10, 2009, 01:41:58 PM

Just a thought but I find it smart to NEVER trust the "science" of a person that stands to profit immensely from the mass's abiding by what they say...

Thats one problem with modern science.... it has become very profitable to have a certain position over another.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #64 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 02:17:10 PM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Apr 10, 2009, 01:41:58 PM

Just a thought but I find it smart to NEVER trust the "science" of a person that stands to profit immensely from the mass's abiding by what they say...

Quote from: fortysixandtwo on Apr 10, 2009, 02:01:03 PM

Thats one problem with modern science.... it has become very profitable to have a certain position over another.

Are you saying...Science has gone the way of journalism? No longer unbiased, seeking only to learn...now, BIG Science has an agenda?

When will the madness end?

2010...is my bet.

BigMike · « **Reply #65 on:** Apr 10, 2009, 04:42:54 PM »

Quote from: 94MtnYote on Apr 10, 2009, 12:32:15 PM

Scientists can determine what the air was made of thousands of years ago by drilling deep into ice, and collecting core samples with air bubbles trapped within. So maybe the chart does have some accuracy.

Takes faith to believe the air conditions within the atmosphere have not changed over time. No scientist alive today was alive thousands of years ago to retrieve empirical data that supports that claim.

This is where I base my view point of the FAITH of the Evolutionary process:
http://www.awakethemasses.net/media/WalterVeith/genesisconflict.html

The 4th Episode titled "104 Where Mammals Reigned" talks about finding columns of ice drilled from glaciers to count the number of seasons much like rings on a tree stump. Jump to 31:50 if you don't wish to take the time to at least see another side of the story.

brainlessfool · « **Reply #66 on:** Apr 11, 2009, 09:36:36 PM »

Quote from: COToy91 on Apr 08, 2009, 09:25:25 PM

I am not a follower of a large group of people who believe this.

It is based off of scientific fact, if you try to prove me otherwise, please feel free to, you will fail. Why? because there is NO evidence that is solid or undeniable on your side of the fence. So please give me facts not lemmings...... and then I will believe you

I've stayed out of this cuz I be bizy.
Butt when you or anyone can tell me why it's worming up on MARS and it's not us, butt here it is? then I'll buy into this stuff.

butt not untill. it's "noraml"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece

kneedownnate · « **Reply #67 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 10:02:22 AM »

Before I bother clicking that link mike, is it some religious mumbo jumbo?

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #68 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 10:08:45 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Apr 12, 2009, 10:02:22 AM

Before I bother clicking that link mike, is it some religious mumbo jumbo?

no it's safe

superyota · « **Reply #69 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 01:25:46 PM »

thats a good article mike. if you have any more links like that, pm them to me or post them up, i'm interested.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #70 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 01:41:52 PM »

Quote from: unclejplx4 on Apr 12, 2009, 10:08:45 AM

no it's safe

Sweet, just had to check since he was talking about faith, can't be wasting too much time on dialup

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #71 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 01:46:18 PM »

well some times you just got have faith, that BF did not post a link to a $That\'s Gay$ site

brainlessfool · « **Reply #72 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 02:00:21 PM »

Quote from: unclejplx4 on Apr 12, 2009, 01:46:18 PM

well some times you just got have faith, that BF did not post a link to a $That\'s Gay$ site

never even thought about that!

Quote from: unclejplx4 on Apr 12, 2009, 10:08:45 AM

no it's safe

yes it is.

COToy91 · « **Reply #73 on:** Apr 13, 2009, 06:51:25 PM »

1. http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm.pdf
2. http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/22835.pdf
3. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/11/not-the-ipcc-nipcc-report
4. http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2008/07/how_to_talk_to_a_sceptic.php

In order, these are (1) the IPCCs summary for policy makers on the Physical Science Basis for climate change, (2) an independent report challenging the assertions of the IPCC report, (3) A critique of this challenge that refers readers to, (4) a wiki providing a list of suggested replies to a variety of contrarian viewpoints.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #74 on:** Apr 14, 2009, 07:16:57 AM »

I think it's funny...why is there a resource to tell people what to say to people that don't buy into the daily crisis. What's wrong with thinking of something on your own?

COToy91 · « **Reply #75 on:** Apr 14, 2009, 01:18:32 PM »

Quote from: abnormaltoy on Apr 14, 2009, 07:16:57 AM

I think it's funny...why is there a resource to tell people what to say to people that don't buy into the daily crisis. What's wrong with thinking of something on your own?

form your own opinion

brainlessfool · « **Reply #76 on:** Apr 14, 2009, 05:07:05 PM »

Quote from: COToy91 on Apr 14, 2009, 01:18:32 PM

form your own opinion

I think he has, as have I.
you said there was nothing on the "other" side. how bout the rising temp on Mars?

checked out #4. did not see anything on rebutting the Mars temp side. butt I did find this there in the feed back=
Two things:
I love physics. As such, I have to dispute your assertion that GW is anthropologic. I would gladly go over the math with you; however, there is not enough space here. Study the laws of thermodynamics - Laws, not theories and not consensus.

I am involved in a study of cosmic rays. Your points totally leave out various other cosmic and solar factors.

Posted by: Joe Garcia | August 12, 2008 4:19 PM

COToy91 · « **Reply #77 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 08:43:54 AM »

Quote from: brainlessfool on Apr 14, 2009, 05:07:05 PM

I think he has, as have I.
you said there was nothing on the "other" side. how bout the rising temp on Mars?

checked out #4. did not see anything on rebutting the Mars temp side. butt I did find this there in the feed back=
Two things:
I love physics. As such, I have to dispute your assertion that GW is anthropologic. I would gladly go over the math with you; however, there is not enough space here. Study the laws of thermodynamics - Laws, not theories and not consensus.

I am involved in a study of cosmic rays. Your points totally leave out various other cosmic and solar factors.

Posted by: Joe Garcia | August 12, 2008 4:19 PM

The whole point of me posting that was to give different sides of the issue

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #78 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 08:42:05 AM »

On a related note...http://green.yahoo.com/blog/daily_green_news/14/will-global-warming-doom-maple-syrup.html

What will happen to all the children, the children who love waffles for breakfast? Oh, the humanity.

Maybe I'll seize the chance to buy some Aunt Jomama stock before the rush!

79yota350 · « **Reply #79 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 10:28:51 AM »

i don't think aunt Jamima is actually maple syrup.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #80 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 10:58:09 AM »

Quote from: 79yota350 on Apr 16, 2009, 10:28:51 AM

i don't think aunt Jamima is actually maple syrup.

I know...once the real stuff is gone, all the maple syrup junkies will be forced to buy my stuff!

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #81 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 03:17:56 PM »

i like the natural syrup like blueberry and what not maples good to i hate aunt joemya even tho i had her this morrning

46&2 · « **Reply #82 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 05:20:33 PM »

Quote from: drunckle on Apr 16, 2009, 03:17:56 PM

i like the natural syrup like blueberry and what not maples good to i hate aunt joemya even tho i had her this morrning

I prefer Uncle Jemima Mash Liquor with my pancakes

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #83 on:** Apr 16, 2009, 07:13:09 PM »

Quote from: fortysixandtwo on Apr 16, 2009, 05:20:33 PM

I prefer Uncle Jemima Mash Liquor with my pancakes

Do you dunk the flapjacks like a donut...or just drink it instead of Joe?

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #84 on:** Apr 19, 2009, 06:44:07 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #85 on:** Apr 20, 2009, 08:13:00 AM »

I think the sky is falling could someone confirm that for me?

Some scientist would say it is, others would say it is not falling but is dissolving in space then others would say it is not falling just shrinking, then others would say it may look like it is but it is actually expanding. I question the exactness of science since it is for the most part someones opinion and the game is to make the masses believe that opinion.

Trunkz · « **Reply #86 on:** Apr 20, 2009, 08:19:03 AM »

just my 2 cents here but when crackatoa erupted in the 1800's it released more "green house gasses" than human will have produced in hundreds of years....
to think that something as insignificant as humans have any effect on how the world works is rather arrogant and people have lost the realization that this planet could kill all of us really quick if it had a mind

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #87 on:** Apr 20, 2009, 08:49:55 AM »

...and the world actually cooled, didn't get hotter it got colder.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #88 on:** Apr 20, 2009, 09:53:59 AM »

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #89 on:** Apr 20, 2009, 09:56:28 AM »

Glen...did the Dr. say it's ok for you to eat popcorn?


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