torttion bar?

[Jaysen]

I have a 95 Toyota pick up, and just want to know if the torttion bar been crank up. How many inch shackle can I use? Right now I have some block in the rear and it's rubbing my e-brake cable, just want to take out the block. Help please..

[whokrz]

I am not sure how high the front is compared to the rear. For every 2inchs the shackle increases you gain 1inch of lift. If this makes your shackle really long like over 7inches eye to eye then I would add leafs to the rear spring pack which will lift the rear of the truck.

[93tonkatoy]

At normal ride height (factory setting), the lower control arms should point down from the crossmember to the balljoints 5-10*.  The arm/crossmember/arm should almost be in a straight line. The cv axles should be straight.

For springs, find a pair of 2wd leaf packs. pull them (and your stockers) apart. Use the main leaves from the 2wd, and the shorter leaves from the 4wd pack (2wd springs have more static arch, since they were installed under the axle). That should give you about 1-1 1/2 inches of ride height. From there, depending on the current shackle length you have, you can lengthen the shacle 1-2", and do away with the blocks (because you said the cable is rubbing not bent over the spring, i'm assuming a 2" block).

If you just add leaves, you will increase the spring rate on the rear, and will get a rougher ride.

[Jaysen]

Can I just add shackle?? I do think it is a 2''block though, cause the cable run right on top of the leaf pack. If not I'll just go get the 2wd leaf pack this weekend from my buddy 2wd pu.

[Snowtoy]

Just extend the parking brake cable bracket that is attached to the axle housing.  This is what is done w'after market lift kits.

You should also looking to getting some bal-joint spacers(from  4Crawler) instead of running the cranked t-bars.  the spacers will give you a stock ride, and allow for more flex of the front suspension when off road.
 

[93tonkatoy]

If you want to replace the block with JUST shackle length, the new shackles will have to be 4" longer than your current ones. That would put them (assuming stock installed now) at about 10" from center of bolt to center of bolt. That is getting to be too long, that is why I suggested the spring modification. Also, the stock springs may have settled under weight (with the previous owner) to the point that the rear was lower than the front. You never said whether the front appeared to be cranked up. If the rear springs did settle, You can add more of the 4wd lower leaves to the pack (make a 4 or 5 leaf pack instead of 3 leafs).

[jimbo74]

i have a set of 2wd leaf springs for sale if you want them, send me a PM

[Jaysen]

thank you 93tonkatoy, jimbo74 thanks for the offer but I have a set too.

[Jaysen]

I'll call Marlin yesterday and the guy told me I need a 8'' shackle to replace my 2'' block which they dont carry that long a size. ?? Just want to know if it true or not. I though he was wrong!

[93tonkatoy]

To replace a 2" block with shackle length, your shackle will need to be 4" longer than your current shackle (approximate). This will also change the angle of your pinion to t/case. you may also want to install a shim between the spring and perch to rotate it back down.

By far the easiest and cheapest way to level the rear to the front height, would be to add the 2nd leaf out of a 2wd rear spring pack (no mil. wrap) into the 4wd spring pack. It should be placed as the 3rd leaf in the 4wd pack, with all the remaining 4wd leaves under it. This will stiffen the rear spring rate a little bit, but should give 1 1/2" to 2" of lift. If you still need a little more, then you should be able to use shackle length to make that up, at the rate of 1" of shackle length increase for 1/2" of additional lift.