Topic: That is right smog for a diesel????

[Blingn]

I have heard that they might start smogging diesels? anyone else hear this?  If so is there a year when they will start?  Im taking smog stuff off and want to know if I should keep it. 

[joey0712]

Keep it... U never know what will happen..... Its CA

[red]

what year is your truck? 07.5+ are going to be smogged, rest are still clear.

[brainlessfool]

have to do smoke checks on big ones now.

[Hyena]

you don't have all the smog stuff required on that truck anyways.  i think it is 07's and newer as said before.

[Blingn [OP]]

what year is your truck? 07.5+ are going to be smogged, rest are still clear.

96 f250

[83yota]

only trucks with the dpf systems

[MiniSimp]

California passes toughest diesel emissions standards in U.S.
December 12, 2008

The California Air Resources Board did pass the diesel emissions standards on Friday.  The standards will be the toughest in the nation and will require extensive retrofitting of heavy diesel trucks and buses.  Some older models will have to be phased out entirely.

Around a million trucks and buses will be retrofitted or replaced.  Retrofits will require smog filters or cleaner engine technology beginning in 2011.  By 2014, all trucks and buses must have soot filters.  By 2023, no truck or bus will be allowed to be more than 13 years old unless it has special equipment to cut nitrogen oxide emissions.

This approval comes in the same week that California also passed the most stringent greenhouse gas emissions laws in the nation.  Reducing diesel soot emissions will improve human health, air quality, and also fight climate change.

Linky: http://forcechange.com/2008/12/12/california-passes-toughest-diesel-emissions-standards-in-us/

[MiniSimp]

First-in-nation proposal in CA to drastically curb diesel emissions
December 11, 2008

California is proposing a first-in-the-nation regulation that would require nearly all heavy trucks that operate in the state to install a filter on their exhaust pipes to reduce diesel soot emissions by 85%.  The proposal comes before the California Air Resources Board on Friday.

If passed, it would take effect in 2010, with 2014 as the deadline for almost all retrofits.  The filters would cost truck operators around $15,000 to $20,000 per truck.  The second and potentially more burdensome phase of the proposal would require older trucks to upgrade their engines to reduce emissions.

Diesel soot is a particularly harmful pollutant.  Medical research indicates that it is among the most harmful types of air pollution, as it can lodge deep in human lungs, can penetrate the walls of blood vessels, and contains more than 40 cancer causing chemicals.

With nearly 50% of all Californians living within one mile of a freeway, this is a tremendous health issue.

Not surprisingly, trucker and business groups, including the California Trucking Association and California Chamber of Commerce, oppose the regulations, calling them cost prohibitive– especially in a time of recession.

The California Air Resources Board estimates that the regulation would cost $5.5 billion but would save at least $48 billion in reduced health care costs and increased productivity.  Additionally, the state will provide $1 billion in low-interest loans and grants to businesses to help truckers comply with the rule.

[Blingn [OP]]

I just love Ca.

[Dingman.]

Don't we all?

if it wasn't for wheeling spots or the beach whats the point?  lol

[Blingn [OP]]

cant forget snow boarding

[Dingman.]

Well that too. 

Up here in norther california, we get snow and some great wheeling.  Thats why i love living here, but some of the stupid laws make me wonder sometimes.

[Hyena]

great, once that proposal hits our economy will go into othe shitter again!

[Makohon]

when i was getting my yota smogged i was told by the tech that  even the earlier diesels will have to pass a VISUAL inspection... he said all they will look for is a bunch of soot comming out when the truck us floored and if it has its original smog equitment.... i want to say this will go all the way back to 97 trucks... not sure if he was correct though.....................

[jedrattle]

when i was getting my yota smogged i was told by the tech that  even the earlier diesels will have to pass a VISUAL inspection... he said all they will look for is a bunch of soot comming out when the truck us floored and if it has its original smog equitment.... i want to say this will go all the way back to 97 trucks... not sure if he was correct though.....................

 He was right!


I grabbed this off of pirate......

The new proposed emissions regulations include all diesel vehicles up to 14,000 lbs GVWR.

http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARR...lcoms1108.html

Quote:
At a minimum, AB 1488 requires that 1998 and newer vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of less than 8501 pounds be included in the Smog Check Program. In addition, the legislation requires the inclusion of diesel-powered vehicles less than 14,000 pounds GVWR once DMV determines the best method for identifying these vehicles, and ARB/BAR implement applicable test procedures. After working with the DMV and the ARB, the three agencies agreed that it would be most cost effective to include diesel vehicles up to 14,000 pounds GVWR so that program changes could be made all at once. This will result in significant cost savings to the State because DMV will only have to make changes to the system once, and emission benefits will be realized to the State sooner.

The bill indicates that the test will, at a minimum, consist of visual checks of the emission control systems (ECS), and an On Board Diagnostics (OBD) test. In addition, AB 1870 (Lieber, Chapter 761, Statutes of 2006) requires a visible smoke test.
__________________