22r performance upgrades

Started by 85yotabox, October 15, 2008, 09:23:45 PM

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85yotabox

i have an 85 toyota pick up with a 22r and i was hopeing to get a little more power out of it. any ideas onthe most cost efective ways?
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kneedownnate

Yes, but there are already quite a few threads here on the subject.  A quick search will net the results you want  :thumbs:
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: 85yotabox on October 15, 2008, 09:23:45 PM
i have an 85 toyota pick up with a 22r and i was hoping to get a little more power out of it. any ideas on the most cost effective ways?
best bang for you buck  for a power upgrade is get rid of the stock exhaust, and get a  quality cam, heres a great little cam at $159 http://www.toyotacatalog.net/m1webgear/ProductDetails.aspx?PartUniqueID=2B3BCB39-57B7-4E3B-9C29-71F773B35A7B
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

85yotabox

is that california state legal? and it says you need to buy their rocker arms too? is that true or do they just say that to make money?
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Wermz84

Depends on how long you want your new cam to last.  They are not just saying that to make money.  Once metal parts are burnished together they need to stay together.  So the old rockers have to stay with the old cam and on the same Lobe it was on.   Any thing else is asking for problems.     :twocents:

O and you could always spend the extra money at your local Toyota dealer.  thats what I did.  :yesnod:
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kneedownnate

Let's hope the aluminum rockers I snagged from pnp mate well to my mikuni cam I just installed  :crossed: 
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Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

85yotabox

i was looking at an msd off-road ignition, do u think that would make a bid diffrence? that would also come in handy cuz i wana get a rev limmiter. is there any way to get one withonut a whole new ignition?
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: 85yotabox on October 17, 2008, 11:19:16 AM
i was looking at an msd off-road ignition, do u think that would make a bid diffrence? that would also come in handy cuz i wana get a rev limmiter. is there any way to get one withonut a whole new ignition?
22R's arent a extremely hi reving engine, so rev limiting isnt a big thing,   if you get the cam i suggested and get a header  you'll be happy
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kneedownnate

X2, there's really not much need for a rev limiter on a 22r.  They'll usually run out of air before they rev too high.
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: kneedownnate on October 17, 2008, 12:06:36 PM
X2, there's really not much need for a rev limiter on a 22r.  They'll usually run out of air before they rev too high.
usually :psss:

remember my engine a couple years ago :rivers:   it was a 22block with a 20R head though 7200 ish and a valve hit the piston :rivers:
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kneedownnate

Yes, but that's not a stock 22r glen  :thumbs:  You modified it in a manner that allowed it to breath much better than a stock 22r, which allowed it to rev higher.  I guess maybe a hybrid or heavily ported 22r could use a rev limiter  :dunno:
RIP KYOTA

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79coyotefrg

Quote from: kneedownnate on October 20, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Yes, but that's not a stock 22r glen  :thumbs:  You modified it in a manner that allowed it to breath much better than a stock 22r, which allowed it to rev higher.  I guess maybe a hybrid or heavily ported 22r could use a rev limiter  :dunno:
very good point,  it had the 20R head that had been ported and  matched to the intake, intake had also been "opened up", plus the weber carb, and  that massive stage 2 race cam  didnt help :drool:

i miss that engine,  this one i have now will give you whiplash but it couldnt run near as fast as the old engine
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: 85yotabox on October 17, 2008, 08:41:21 AM
is that california state legal? and it says you need to buy their rocker arms too? is that true or do they just say that to make money?
yes it is, it even has the C.A.R.B. sticker
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

79coyotefrg

this is the cam i run, http://www.toyotacatalog.net/m1webgear/ProductDetails.aspx?PartID=1022036&PartRevisionID=
but be advised  you will need to clearance your pistons,  so make sure you have them re balanced, and you must make sure you use the right stem seals, my first time around i had stem seal/retainer bind :down:
  if your not up to the task  or have the coin,  get the cam i posted earlier in this thread
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

LOL @ IFS

Best way to get more power from a 22R is to make it an RE. :)  I have an EB RV head, 261 cam and a Thorley header on my RE and I love it.  It's incredibly nutty in the low and mid range.  In 2WD and both cases in low, even with the stock 3.90 gears, I can do brake stands.  At idle.  On dry pavement. 

jimbo74

Quote from: LOL @ IFS on October 21, 2008, 12:13:12 PMIn 2WD and both cases in low, even with the stock 3.90 gears, I can do brake stands.  At idle.  On dry pavement. 


i think that has more to do with gear reduction than insane power.......
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LOL @ IFS

No way, man... all power.  I can do 4WD donuts in high range all day.  At idle.  On ice.

:P

79coyotefrg

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Wermz84

Quote from: LOL @ IFS on October 21, 2008, 12:30:09 PM
No way, man... all power.  I can do 4WD donuts in high range all day.  At idle.  On ice.

:P

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