replacing clutch

[sno runner]

What clutch would be recomended for a daily driver, I'm leaning towards a center force 1.  Also, what is the tool used to remove the pilot bearing. I remember breaking hella tools trying to remove that b!#ch on my 88 toy pick-up.

[Skinny_Pedal]

from what i have been told. centerforce sucks. i hear the marlin 1200 is nice. i just used an oe qulity one. sachs was the name of it. couldnt afford the marlin

[WHITE_TRASH]

Sachs makes a decent clutch, Ive used them before.  The pilot is pretty easy to get out.  You'll need a drift or a 3/8" extension, wrap the tool of choice with electrical tape till it fits snuggly inside the pilot bearing.  Pack the cavity behind the bearing with grease, insert tool and hit it with a hammer.  It will pop out by using the hydraulic pressure of the grease.

[sno runner]

hows the sachs. hard on the clutch pedal. slipping on moderate wheeling?
Thanks

[WHITE_TRASH]

It holds pretty darned good, and has nice pedal feel better than most of the reasonably priced ones out there.  The problem with centerforce is they dont slip.  I know that sounds dumb but by not slipping they wear the pressure plate really fast and having no give.  They also take enough pedal pressure to wear the thrust bearings on the crankshaft as well.

[sno runner]

Sorry I have to ask, whats is a drift?

[Skinny_Pedal]

its a realy good clutch for $100 bucks. i even didnt follow the rules of breaking it in, due to right after i had it installed i was running on 3cylinders. but it doesnt slip at all offroad, and the pedal is normal. i would actually prefer it to be stiffer but its nice a smooth

[WHITE_TRASH]

A drift is basically a shaft generally about 1/2" in diameter that you use basically like a chisel.  Its a blunt faced punch.  Most of them are made of brass so they dont mar the surface of steel when used on it.

[sno runner]

Is sachs the clutch offered as an OEM replacement on the Marlin website. Sounds good:)

[sno runner]

Thanks for the drift info . I understand now.
Remo:)

[WHITE_TRASH]

Thats a basic Luk clutch.  As a rule Luk is the best clutch out there for a import application.

[Skinny_Pedal]

i here napa clutches are really good also. but never driven a truck with one

[Prismo]

I use a long 1/4" drive socket that fits in the pilot bearing w/the grease. Stuff paper in the drive socket cavity to stop grease from getiing into it. I have always used the stock NEW clutches from Toyota with no problems at all. Next time I will try Marlins.

[sno runner]

Where would I find a "Luk" clutch. Sorry for all the ?'s. I have the trany out and getting it rebuilt, and want to do everything right the first time. 120,000 mile on the current clutch.
Peace
Remo

[WHITE_TRASH]

Call Marlins tomorrow.  Ill bet they have them on the shelf.

[sno runner]

How about putting the new bearing in with out damaging it? Line it up with a socket that is the same size as the outer race of the bearing and tap it in?

[WHITE_TRASH]

Yup thats the trick.

[Skinny_Pedal]

my factory clutch had 157000 on it!

[sno runner]

You guys have been great! Thanks for all your help. I don't want to sound retarded or anything, just wanted to do the job right the first time.
Thanks
Remo
cheers

[Prismo]

The new ones work well. The rebuilt Toyota ones stink

[WHITE_TRASH]

Come on Prism, all clutches stink when you slip them too much.

[sno runner]

new ones?

[WHITE_TRASH]

You can buy relined clutches from places like autozone etc. but they are cheap garbage and should be avoided like the plague.

[Prismo]

Toyota sells both new & rebuilt replacement clutch sets. With my gearing I really don't ever slip the clutch. I don't go real fast either

[sno runner]

yeah, no remanufactured crap!

[sno runner]

Any of you guys live in the Nor Cal, So Cal area. As soon as I get my together I'm headed down towards Pismo to wheel the dunes. probably in the next month or so.

PARTY

[WHITE_TRASH]

Funny thing is all of us are from WA.  Im on the east side and 86runner and Prism are both from the west side of the Cascades.

[sno runner]

WA. as in Washington above Oregon, Seatle? ever been to Pismo (Oceano Dunes State Park) It's closer than the Moab, and hella fun to wheel the dunes.

[WHITE_TRASH]

Yup they are from the Seattle side Im from the other side.   Ive never been to pismo yet but one of these days....

[sno runner]

Dude, air your tires down and roll. Compitition hill is the . Hours of fun.