mouting shackles for sas

[Skinny_Pedal]

when doing an sas, instead of drilling through the frame. couldnt u just weld on a hanger for the shackle?

[WHITE_TRASH]

Yup but if you used a spring with any arch at all youd have a monster truck!  Ive seen it done that way and it works just like having the shackle mounted in the frame, but it also acts like a super long shackle.

[Skinny_Pedal]

couldnt u just use a stock height shackle to level it out?

[WHITE_TRASH]

A stock shackle wont allow enough movement of the springs.  Thats why everyone uses longer shackle.

[Skinny_Pedal]

well how tall are u talking, because i will just use the stock 2wd rears and not add a leaf. im afraid of drilling through the frame, i have a gut felling that is the one thing ill fu*k up

[WHITE_TRASH]

Its easy there is no reason to be affraid of it especially since you are getting the kit from Marlin right?  The kit includes a set of jigs to drill the frame by.

[Skinny_Pedal]

im not buying a kit. i did plan on buying his jigs and shakcles though. but i want to tell people i built it. show them what i can do, not just buy a kit and put it on. wheres the pride in that. but marlin has a dam nice kit, i just want it to be built by me

[WHITE_TRASH]

Aw crap that didnt take long to come back on me did it.  When did I say that, yesterday? lol

[Skinny_Pedal]

o well ill take your word on it and just drill through the frame  .

[WHITE_TRASH]

Its actually not that hard.  Its like painting a car, the painting isnt what makes it look great its the preperation.  (although a painter that know what they are doing sure helps)

[Skinny_Pedal]

i suck at painting to. wt your not helping me here

[Skinny_Pedal]

u still never said how high it would be if i didnt drill through the frame?

[WHITE_TRASH]

Measure 5 times drill once!

[Skinny_Pedal]

but what if my frames bent, lol. hey how high?

[WHITE_TRASH]

Youve seen mine.  That should give you an idea.

[Skinny_Pedal]

gotta be honset, i didn't even think to look wheni was looking at it. ill just look at prism when i go over there later this week

[WHITE_TRASH]

I didnt use any jigs when I drilled mine, beings they are mounted about 1" above where everyone else mounts theirs.  I moved the sleeve up as far as possible so I could have the "slower arch" of a long shackle without having it hang down too far.  Im going to move the tube forward about an inch for a better shackle angle and more clearance one of these days.

[KYOTA]

Definately go thru the frame and with the jigs how could you go wrong

[Hyena]

If you put the shackle under the frame it will flex better on the trail.  But on the road it is really squarely.  If you plan on using just the rear pack you might think about it.  The rear springs alone won't be enough to hold all that weight.  They will flat in an instant.  I added 4 leaves under my stock leaves for a total of 7 leaves and it looks good.  Not flat at all.  I did have just 6 leaves but that was still to soft and they sat flat.

[robrocketanski]

don't put the shackle mount on the bottom. no regrets but if i sas again i wouldn't put them on the bottom. i thought it would be cool and i could use my rears up front. it is ok but way too tall. i do have the longest front springs i have heard of yet but  to get the correst caster i now have a short shackle and a HUGE drop front hanger.

[robrocketanski]

ps those are 38.5x15 ground hawgs. note they are below the body but i still have my body lift on. i will remove that and maybe be ok.

[WHITE_TRASH]

What front spring did you use on that truck?

[robrocketanski]

my rears. I have over 100" os spring. the truck has all yota parts except mazda rears (which are destined for disposal) and some cool stuff from marlin. and a downey alternator too.

[84runner]

I believe dirtyskivies has a set a jigs that he will loan out to the right people