2" BACK SPACED WHEELS.

Started by SLIVER, June 11, 2008, 08:41:49 AM

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SLIVER

I did a search and came up with at least 17 billion things about wheels so i'll just ask my question

The wheels I have now are 3.75 BS. If I switch to a 2" BS, will I gain 1.75" of overall width at each wheel?
If I understand this right I would increase my overall width 3.50 inches?? Is this correct?? That would be huge.

Also do you guys know of a good online place that sells 2" BS steel wheels? I really like the ones that I have now, however I can only find them in 3.75.

Thanks a ton

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79coyotefrg

Quote from: SLIVER on June 11, 2008, 08:41:49 AM

The wheels I have now are 3.75 BS. If I switch to a 2" BS, will I gain 1.75" of overall width at each wheel?
If I understand this right I would increase my overall width 3.50 inches?? Is this correct?? That would be huge.



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MiniSimp

Call these guys, they will do anything! http://www.mrt-wheels.com/

Less backspacing will not make your wheel wider, it will make them stick out more.

EarlKann

Yes they will increase your track width.  This does, however put additional stress, mostly on the trunion/knuckle bearings, but many people run them with no problems.  2-inch backspace is going to be a special order so you can't just get them online that I know of.  You'll need to talk to a person to get them done right.  I know a lot of people order them through Summit.  I just went into my local America's Tire store and they ordered them for me.

CTENG in KS

If you really like your wheels you could always just get a set of 1.5" spacers from marlin.  Same effect, you keep your wheels.  Just remember to check your torque occasionally and BigMike recomends installing spacers with anti-seize to help get propper torque spec.
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MiniSimp

Quote from: CTENG in KS on June 11, 2008, 08:54:33 AM
If you really like your wheels you could always just get a set of 1.5" spacers from marlin.  Same effect, you keep your wheels.  Just remember to check your torque occasionally and BigMike recomends installing spacers with anti-seize to help get propper torque spec.
Or you can get crazy like I am and run the 2"BS wheels with 1.5" spacers. :greengrin:

CTENG in KS

IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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SLIVER

Quote from: MiniSimp on June 11, 2008, 09:02:57 AM
Or you can get crazy like I am and run the 2"BS wheels with 1.5" spacers. :greengrin:
I do have 1.5" spacers. I would love to be wider still though.
Mini, have you had any problems with your setup like this??

Thanks for the replies guys, I will check into them.

Thanks again.
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MiniSimp

Quote from: SLIVER on June 11, 2008, 11:16:12 AMMini, have you had any problems with your setup like this??
None yet. I did toast a Knuckle Bearing, but that was because I was pinched/wedged against a mountain. I don't beleive that was caused by the wheels since it happened while wedged.

Other than that, I'm running 37's with 2" BS wheels 1.5" spacers, BB Balanced with RUF. Pounded the pinchweld on the firewall and no rubbing.

SLIVER

SWEET! I feel that another 3" would greatly improve the stability of my runner.

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MiniSimp

Quote from: SLIVER on June 11, 2008, 11:29:03 AM
SWEET! I feel that another 3" would greatly improve the stability of my runner.

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:yesnod: It helps.


SLIVER

Thanks again man,

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Thomas P

im rockin 2.5 bs wheels and 1.5 spacers, and have had em for 2 years, and have done tons of wheelin with no problems
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
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SLIVER

dayumm!!!!!!!! those are some large tires! Makes my 35's look like spagetti o's.
Where did you get the 2.5" wheels? If you remember.

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lucky7

My mickey thompsons are 2.5 but are aluminum and 10's i like them alot plus a little :bling:

Thomas P

lol spaghetti o's, i got my wheels at les schwab, they come in chrome, or black for the same price, about $400, you can get some cragar soft 8's, with 2.5" offset from summit for like $300, i dont know if they are the same quality or not
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

Thomas P

dont get aluminum!!!!!!!!!!!! my buddy shattered his aluminum rim on a rock, and it was a nightmare!
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

jimbo74

Quote from: 1985efiyota on June 11, 2008, 03:26:31 PM
dont get aluminum!!!!!!!!!!!! my buddy shattered his aluminum rim on a rock, and it was a nightmare!


i say that depends... alluminum is lighter, and very resistant to damage, in some circumstances, it is very strong, and usually doesnt crack or shatter, but if you push it that hard, you are screwed..... now steel is strong, but usually stamped more or less meaning a thinner wheel center... now you can bend it back quite a few times before it throws in the towel.... steel is heavier....

you can destroy anything given the right circumstances....
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lucky7

Yeah i've torn one in half before :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: and a center divider :hammer:

NorCalToy

gotrocks shattered one on his buggy IIRC.aluminum wheel.
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Thomas P

yeah anything can be broken if you have the right opportunity but suppose your up in the hills and you hit a rock fairly hard, wouldnt you rather bend a steelie and keep on truckin then to shatter an aluminami and be up poo poo creek  :twocents: the aluminum bein lighter is a good thing though

'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

jimbo74

Quote from: 1985efiyota on June 11, 2008, 03:56:26 PM
yeah anything can be broken if you have the right opportunity but suppose your up in the hills and you hit a rock fairly hard, wouldnt you rather bend a steelie and keep on truckin then to shatter an aluminami and be up poo poo creek  :twocents: the aluminum bein lighter is a good thing though





it takes quite a bit of force to bend an alluminum wheel..... it takes much less force to bend a steel wheel.....

it all depends on conditions, anything can be broken...

at that point, i would toss on a spare...

what if i didnt have the tools to bend the steelie back? i would then be scerwed as well.....
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The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

Thomas P

yeah you have a good point there jimbo, does anyone know the price difference between the 2? thats probably the next deciding factor
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

Thomas P

my buddy shattered his rim when he was in a comp, if he had a steelie he could have limped through on a bent rim, but if he was out in the woods with a steeli he would have had to swap on a spare like you said, so would you say aluminum would be better for hittin trails since they are more resistant to damage, and steel better for comp since they would be more likely to bend then to break, so you could continue the course?
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

jimbo74

Quote from: 1985efiyota on June 11, 2008, 04:23:36 PM
my buddy shattered his rim when he was in a comp, if he had a steelie he could have limped through on a bent rim, but if he was out in the woods with a steeli he would have had to swap on a spare like you said, so would you say aluminum would be better for hittin trails since they are more resistant to damage, and steel better for comp since they would be more likely to bend then to break, so you could continue the course?

again, it depends on the use and what you are looking for... there is no perfect situtaion and no identical situation.....

you can taco a steel rim beyond repair, its all a matter of what happened, what conditions.... there isnt a yes or no answer, it is not a cut and dry answer
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KDXSR5

ok... to look at this shattering aluminum rim thing... what brand, and what size? What process was used to manufacture said rim? I would use a forged aluminum wheel over some steel wheel any day

Concerning this thread: I found some tires with 2.25 inch backspacing the other day, they were black steel ones... if I remember correctly, they were some pro comp ones

Thomas P

i dont know the specs on the rim.
you are right again jimbo, youre a wise man, thanks for the debate! lol
i guess it all boils down to what you want!
'85 EFI X cab SR5. 42" Iroks, Dual ultimates etc.
'84 Std. cab  Yota, Chevy 4.3 swapped (makes v8's cry)
'88 4 Runner 39.5" Iroks FJ80 front, taco rear elockers dual ultimates
'07 Toyota Tundra crew max 5.7 (grocery getter/tow rig)
'14 Camry SE
SCX10 Honcho on roids!

jimbo74

Quote from: KDXSR5 on June 11, 2008, 04:30:03 PMI found some tires with 2.25 inch backspacing


tires got backspacing? ;)
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The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

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KDXSR5

:slap: I am a retard... I meant rims :doh:

jimbo74

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The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

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