Topic: NEW Proposed Fees for forrest Use

[85-4roller]

Once again the Forest service is proposing to charge fees at areas that were once free. Most of these areas have no ramps or services. Not even a trash can. If the proposal goes through, the public could be charged to launch boats at Edison Lake, Florence Lake and Mammoth Pool or use the Goat Meadow Snow Play Area outside Yosemite. Several previously free campgrounds, picnic areas and trailheads also would be subject to use fees.   

See the article @ 
http://www.fresnobee.com/sports/outdoors/story/160376.html
 
 Then, If you care,  send your comments to http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sierra/contact/feedback.shtml

[kneedownnate]

  Those greedy bitches just don't realise that the fees they collect might be far outweighed by the lack of monies spent locally when people decide NOT to go there anymore.  Does that make sense to anybody but me?

[Stocker]

This really frosts my cookies.  I'm old enough to remember when there were virtually no fees, and virtually no gates either.  Public lands were considered to be public lands, open for public use.  Our tax dollars (and timber sales receipts) paid the costs of running the USFS. Now, of course, timber sales are practically a thing of the past. So ever-increasing fees seem to be a significant source of funding.

However...  If the USFS (& others) didn't have so many employees collecting fees and patrolling the lakes and woods looking for 'violators',  they wouldn't need to collect all the fees to pay all those employees.  Hmmm, not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me....   

And don't let me get started on their 'wildfire management' techniques.  That's a whole other story...   

[Rocksurfer]

I wouldn't mind paying a fee if the funds went back into the the department that was charging the fee. Enforcement is a necessary evil since not everyone follows the rules. Unfortunately we'd not see one penny go back into the area for which the fee was charged. To me at that point it is not a fee, it is a well disguised tax.

[BLACKDOG]

I wouldn't mind paying a fee if the funds went back into the the department that was charging the fee. Enforcement is a necessary evil since not everyone follows the rules. Unfortunately we'd not see one penny go back into the area for which the fee was charged. To me at that point it is not a fee, it is a well disguised tax.

[cruzila]

Our forefathers came to this country to avoid the excess taxes imposed by the European Monarchies.

[Rocksurfer]

Our forefathers came to this country to avoid the excess taxes imposed by the European Monarchies.

Now we just tax the hell out of ourselves.

[NorCalToy]

thats sucks. i dont recognize any of those names, but i know that its only a matter of time till its like that where im at. everything is already gated and occasionally roseburg checks the gates and trails, but you offer em $5 and they leave you alone. i tried it and then took off becasue if they are that f'ed up then im not going to stop and hear their BS about private property, when i no that it isnt private property.

[kneedownnate]

everything is already gated and occasionally roseburg checks the gates and trails

You mean like roseburg logging?  I certainly hope you're not referring to wheelin behind their locked gates   

[NorCalToy]

You mean like roseburg logging?  I certainly hope you're not referring to wheelin behind their locked gates   

rosebug logging, yes.
I go quad riding with a friend and his grandpa, they lease land from somebody, i dont know who, for water use and there are spots where thay have to check for clogs in the creek. i go with them and then on some of the other land we go ride for fun. roseburg says its their land and that we cant be on it. its legal to ride on though becasue of the land lease. kind of a stupid situation.

when i get my license im just gonna go to Keswick.

[kneedownnate]

when i get my license im just gonna go to Keswick.

To ride the shasta ohv park?  It was better before they extended the river trail through that area

[85-4roller [OP]]

Most all changes the FS does are not good.
 
If you think things are bad now, wait till that tree huggen, Seirra Club loven Hillery gets elected.