Marlin Crawler Super Heavy Duty Clutch for the city?

[mspa]

hello gents!

this is my first post, and I'm about to replace my clutch in a 1988 4runner with V6, that is my daily driver. I will never be doing serious off-roading like many of you. I'll be 90% highway driving. The rest will be driving in snow to go skiing in the winter, and camping in the summer. So I'm wondering if it's better for me to go with an OEM style replacement as opposed to the stronger MC? Is there a benefit?

Thanks!!

[DTB]

i would go with a stock toyota clutch but im weird

[Wermz84]

Ya, your weird.    But I agree.  OEM.

[Cheesemaker]

I know what a Marlin clutch costs, what would a factory clutch costs?  I know that a replacement from Carquest OEM clutch costs more than a  HD!

[Willy Mammoth]

What's a little extra peddle pressure? Just don't get the dual friction or ceramic.

[88_Pathy]

I have one and it is fine. It is stiffer but very manageable.

[79coyotefrg]

get the Marlin clutch  you'll never need another clutch


just dont get the ceramic 

[mspa]

The OEM is $50 more.

[mspa]

and will have a one year warranty parts and labor.

[79coyotefrg]

and will have a one year warranty parts and labor.

dude, ive had my Marlin clutch for 5 years,   its lasted thru 3 motors  and about 30000 miles of towing and hard offroading,  and  still is very strong

[mspa]

Okay, so I'm thinking I need:

Heavy Duty Semi-Metallic Clutch Kit # MC-11009
OR
Super Heavy Duty Semi-Metallic Clutch Kit # MC-11009S

Is there any reason I should spend the extra $20 for the "Super" kit?

Anything else I should order with it? Heavy Duty Pressure Plate Bolt Kit, Master/Slave Cylinder, Flywheel . . .

As far as I know, my clutch is shot because the valve cover gaskets have leaked oil down into it. It's all soppy. The mechanic who's shop it's at now said he would do a clutch job, and I think he mentioned a master or slave cylinder. He would charge $850 for the whole job.

Thanks guys!!!

[Misfit4Runner]

ya... a lil off topic but what does MSPA stand for?

[kneedownnate]

I'd go with the marlin HD kit for your needs, no sense in going SHD.  Far as I know you can't just get a kit from toyota either, you just order each part individually.  Nothing wrong with stock (I have almost 205,000 on mine and it's slipped for the last 50,000)

[mspa]

That's okay . . . rather than get creative like some of you guys, I just used "m" for Matt, and the first three letters of my last name. 

[toyotaexo]

i think it all matters what size tires your running?   and why not try and do the job yourself it's not that hard even for a beginner

[jimbo74]

i run the marlin 1600 on my 85 22r.... i love it, i primarily do city driving, i am very pleased with it. performs better than the oem and the centerforce dual friction i had before

[mspa]

I do plan on having a friend help me on this. I was just repeating what the mechanic had told me, to see if that might shed any light on what needs to be done.

I have 31x10.5 on this truck, with V6. There's no mod's on the engine. Only thing not stock is the lift kit.

What I hope to figure out is if I need any of the other stuff listed on the MC clutch page.

[dirtchicken]

If you're gonna do the clutch I'd replace the flywheel also. There's a good chance that yours is warped/cracked.

[mspa]

how do i know if i need a slave or master cylinder?

[kneedownnate]

If you're gonna do the clutch I'd replace the flywheel also

Replace or resurface?  I've yet to see a toy flywheel crack, but if it's surface is warped that'll clean up when resurfaced.

[emsvitil]

how do i know if i need a slave or master cylinder?

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If they're leaking........

[Wermz84]

I just replace my Flywheel eveytime.    down here it's cheaper than having it resurfaced. 



For the record I do love my Marlin 1200 clutch.    So if you go that way, that would be goot as well.

[kneedownnate]

Interesting  

I know you guys are gonna laugh, but I'm actually thinking I'm going to try having a couple/few pounds shaved off the flywheel on my 4by since it's usually a DD.  Friend's dad has a lathe and does it on vw flywheels sometimes, should be enough material on the r series flywheel to safely lose some weight.

If/when I ever get my 81 2wd on the road again, I'd like to shoot for 4 or 5 pound weight loss.  That and making sure each piston/rod assembly weighs the same. 

[jimbo74]

get an mc flywheel. its stepped, works best with the cluthes, allows more life, etc. mike recently explained it somewhere

[jimbo74]

the lightened flywheel isnt a bad idea, the go fast crowd has been doing that for ages. i think lc sells them like that too

[kneedownnate]

Lc sells flywheels down to 11 pounds I believe.  My friend was telling me sammy guys have messed around with lightening their flywheels and it's helped on slowing down on downhills. 

[Cheesemaker]

By shaving your flywheel, you also have more of a chance of warping your flywheel.  Especially, if you've been known to slip the clutch alot!

[kneedownnate]

True, but it depends on where you take the weight off.  A couple pounds isn't going to equate to much across the whole flywheel.

[Plekto]

I'd go with the MC flywheel if you need a new one(won't know till it's apart, though), and the heavy duty clutch - the highest rating non ceramic one.

It completely makes my old Dual-Friction Centerforce look like a joke.  That thing had so much slip in it that you could slam the clutch at 3000rpm from a standstill and it wouldn't jerk or smoke or stall.  Good for not toasting your clutch I guess if you are crawling over rocks and don't have lockers I guess...  But really not the right way to do things.

This new one is exactly like a typical BMW or whatnot - very tight and precise.  Not on/off like a racing clutch, which is what ceramics are usually used for. 

As for the flywheel, I guess I'm old-school and would like to get a *heavier* one if I could. While lighter does help with revving the thing, heavier makes it really hard to stall out when you're in first.   The stock one IIRC is on the heavy side as it is.  Toyota knew what they were doing when they designed these first and second gens.(off-road use was a given, on-road was a distant second, much like the Wrangler still is designed)

[Carter62]

Well I dont have a v6 but recently had a Marlin HD semi/metallic clutch installed and I was surprised that the pedal was SOFTER than the factory (130,000). Of course I put on a new slave cylinder as well but it works great on and off-road and certainly isn't too harsh or too wimpy. No regrets.

steve