Author Topic: 88, 3.0 ignition read (not done deal ) read on (Read 11668 times)

Plowking · « **on:** Aug 21, 2007, 07:06:22 PM »

I have noticed lately my timing has gotten rather sloppy, sometimes it goes sometimes the timing seems way off, verry inconsistent. I had it apart today and it appeared that the rotor was not a perfect fit but not really sure. my question being what is the most likely problem?

1) My shaft in my distrubitor is good with no wobble or side play.
2) Engine now has almost 10k miles on top and bottom end, yes with all new timing components.
3) Help!

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #1 on:** Aug 22, 2007, 12:03:23 AM »

In the past I've had issues with the distributor bolt loosening, and the distributor moving on its own. Might want to check that

Also, does the cap look like the rotor has contacted it? If it seems like the rotor is loose, I would replace it. Mine have always been a very tight fit, with no doubt that it was tight.

If your dist., rotor, and cap all seem good, check your wires, and check your coil. Any of them could be faulty, or the coil could be on its way out. You may have a problem with the computer itself, but lets check the easy stuff first, shall we?

Plowking · « **Reply #2 on:** Aug 27, 2007, 07:09:14 PM »

Well I am gonna tell you it is such a random problem, In fact the truck wont start in the morning without the game with the key (ignition). Timing is allover the place you can feel it in the throttle response. Millage is no different than usual. All components replaced 10 or 12 k miles ago.

Another question If the rubber seal was gone would that make a difference on the distrubtor cap?

Thanks

Plowking · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 19, 2007, 05:48:15 PM »

Update 11-19-07
Now I am getting nervious. Have replaced cap and rotor, The old ones were beat, changed but runs the same real poor ignition timing, all over the palace. Engine does seem to miss, randomly. Pulled the code and and came up code #11
meaning Momentary interruption in power supply to ECU (according to HANES manual)
They are telling me to look at IG sw circuit, main relay and ecu.

My question would be the truck wouldnt start without main relay or IG right?

lucky7 · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 20, 2007, 06:35:54 PM »

Might want to try a little dialectric grease on your connections .My tranny used to go into limp
mode all the time greased it no problem.

Plowking · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 20, 2007, 08:50:39 PM »

found some time today. Wires replaced, cap rotor as well. going to break out the handy Fluke meter tomorrow. I will post my results. When motor was built all the vac lines were replaced. hoping its not a bad injector vacuum leak.

As for grease I am a big believer in that moisture barrier thanks

Plowking · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 04, 2007, 05:52:05 PM »

Update spent some time over the weeks and felt the TBS sensor was bad, did seem to help till truck was disconnected from battery over nite now the truck wont idle. All spark pugs were replaced, The timing is still jumpy.

Finally got my freshly rebuilt trans in along with the rear main oil seal replaced oil leaks all gone If I could get it to run right.

HELP
Snow is coming and will need for snow plowing season.

lucky7 · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 11:11:50 AM »

Wondering if you fixed the problem just failed smog computer isn't retarding timing wondering if tps is bad.

Plowking · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 11:18:29 AM »

Quote from: lucky7 on Dec 08, 2007, 11:11:50 AM

Wondering if you fixed the problem just failed smog computer isn't retarding timing wondering if tps is bad.

Tps was replaced with borg warner TPS sensor and it did run great for about one week, till battery was disconnected for 24 hours while trans was out. It is running worse then ever and am very close to just ordered the air meter box and the ECU, hell what's another $800.00 bucks.

lucky7 · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 11:44:02 AM »

Are you running an auto opr stick

Plowking · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 11:49:53 AM »

Manual 5 Speed trans is that what you are asking? Parts bin says they are selling the ecu for 10.95, 489.00 cheaper than anyone else
http://www.thepartsbin.com/catalog/products.php?year=1988&make_text=toyota&model_text=pickup&category=engine_electrical&subcategory=engine_module

Plowking · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 03:12:50 PM »

The local Toyota dealer is getting this dinosaur monday I am done searching. Will post the bill when it is fixed

DTB · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 08, 2007, 03:29:36 PM »

Quote from: Plowking on Dec 08, 2007, 03:12:50 PM

Will post the bill when it is fixed

Plowking · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:34 PM »

Well so far the word is timing belt jumped a tooth or two, then I got a call today, and the mass air flow sensor is bad. Something tells me thats not the end, will keep you all posted.
Total bill to date is 950 +/-

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 11, 2007, 05:32:40 PM »

Quote from: Plowking on Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:34 PM

Well so far the word is timing belt jumped a tooth or two, then I got a call today, and the mass air flow sensor is bad. Something tells me thats not the end, will keep you all posted.
Total bill to date is 950 +/-

That sucks.

I hope that is it. Make sure you ask for all your old parts back, so you can test them yourself.

Plowking · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 12, 2007, 06:27:18 PM »

well went to dealer to pick up truck (got the its done call). pay the bill and guess what it wont start 1058.00 later and its about 20.00 worth better. I did get it to start but timing seems to far advanced, where it was retarded when I dropped it off. Needless to say I didnt take it and left a few a-hole remarks to the guy that took my complaint. Oh what a feeling TOYOTA. And we are expecting snow in the next 24 hours.
I am screwed

Plowking · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 15, 2007, 03:45:13 PM »

Well no truck and no snow its gonna rain. I think I am looking at another 12 hours troubleshooting and a temperature sensor part that is ordered, My truck has a warm dry home at the dealership for the weekend. I am betting total cost of this repair will ring in at 1700.00 to 2000.00
WHAT A BARGIN

DTB · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 15, 2007, 03:55:29 PM »

u should have swapped in a good used motor or bought a different truck...that is ridiculous

Plowking · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 15, 2007, 06:25:21 PM »

The motor was punched out and redone 2.5 years ago, The truck is and or was the project from hell. But really a good truck for 20 years old I really cant complain the truck owes me though

Plowking · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 18, 2007, 08:57:16 PM »

It has been 10 days in the dealers hands I am getting nervious. No word yet. Sweet looking 86 on ebay though hmmmm turbo too, damn what a nice truck to gut and make her a runner
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110205938325&rd=1

Plowking · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 21, 2007, 11:57:20 AM »

12/21 Talked with dealer today and I think they found the problem. Algea in gas tank yeah really, green living stuff in my tank.
I am looking for a gas tank now, total potential bill is now pushing the $3000.00 mark. Yes you read that right. Need to find good gas tank from one of you guys, That will save me some 400. +/-

Thanks E mail me at JSOHOSKY@comcast.net

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 21, 2007, 02:56:33 PM »

WOW!!

I have never heard that one before! That is wierd. Can't help you on the gas tank, but good luck! Hope that was all that is wrong with it

, $3000 is more than twice as much as my truck cost me.

DeadlyPeace · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 21, 2007, 03:27:46 PM »

Damn that sucks, sorry dude. Try checking out the www.ToyotaOffRoad.com board too. I know there's quite a few people in your area on there. If no one here has one hopefully one of them might . Good luck.

Plowking · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 27, 2007, 07:52:20 PM »

Ok 12/27/07 Still no truck, today I called and told them to clean the tank and this is where it got ugly. the guy on the other end told me we cant clean your tank sir there is (rust) in the tank. I called him out on it, he was handling my truck and went on vacation (service rep type). To make a long boring story a little shorter, a guy I went to high school is trying to hook me up. I was told the only way it was leaving the dealership was with a new tank. And was told it would be taken care of for x amount of $ period. Once it all happens I will elaborate on the story. Original guy helping me was milking me and my wallet and insulting my intelligence. The number I set is what they are gonna do it for we shall see?

DeadlyPeace · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 28, 2007, 09:22:13 AM »

Damn them Sealerships, I call :bull crap:

Good Luck. Hope you get it back soon. Must be going nuts without your TOY.

Plowking · « **Reply #25 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 06:06:13 PM »

Pick the truck up tomorrow, the price was set as agreed, road tested it and put 15 miles on it. ( hopefully new gas) A buddy of mine joking with me said when you pick it up dont be suprised if it is loaded with mud. Will post bills in the next day or 2

DeadlyPeace · « **Reply #26 on:** Jan 08, 2008, 10:40:41 AM »

Glad you finally got it back.......I hope

Plowking · « **Reply #27 on:** Jan 09, 2008, 08:49:08 PM »

The truck is home I have put 55 miles on it and it never ran better.
Total bill(s) 1085.00 and than 2000.00 for the second round of work dealer had it for 4 weeks.
Strangest combinations of problems I have seen.
New dealer did while they had it
Air meter box
Gas tank w fuel pump, and fuel tube assembly
Temp sensor replaced
Timing belt replaced cause it jumped a tooth
Oxygen sensor replaced (had it laying around for almost 2 years)
CPU/ replaced although it didnt need one.

Now there is no chance of snow and it was 65 degrees today .

Live and learn, hoefully this post will help the next guy

lucky7 · « **Reply #28 on:** Jan 09, 2008, 09:16:06 PM »

What do you think was realy the main problem and did they give any type of warranty?

Plowking · « **Reply #29 on:** Jan 10, 2008, 02:05:23 PM »

Green stuff (algea) growing in the gas tank, low fuel pressure, pickup tube clogged, fuel filter clogged, truck was running real bad and driving it anyway I believe caused the timing belt to jump a tooth.

They will get lucky as I dont drive the truck much less than 5k miles a year. I do believe they fixed the problem(s)
They did take 440.00 off the bill. the total on part 2 was $2400.00


	Poll Cost for bill 300- 0 (0%) 500+/- 2 (40%) 700 to 900 1 (20%) 1000+ 2 (40%) Total Members Voted: 5

Poll

Cost for bill

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Plowking [OP]

Related Topics