Author Topic: new project a 92 toyota doing a sas with about 7 inchs of lift (Read 1960 times)

mudbrother1992 · « **on:** Jun 28, 2007, 09:13:12 PM »

hey im doing a SAS in my yoda got everything planed out but what should i watch out for my buddy i good at this stuff so i don't think i have to worry much but just to keep an eye on the little stuff that can be messed up any help would be great

thanks josh

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #1 on:** Jun 28, 2007, 10:59:28 PM »

why do you want/need 7" of lift? if you're using for rock crawling, you'll prolly want it to be lower. I've got 7" on mine, and it can be pretty tippy (or course, it is IFS, so that is a facotr

) When I go to a SA, I'm going to lower it about 3" I hope.

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #2 on:** Jun 29, 2007, 06:56:50 AM »

well 7 worked out good for me cause i do alot more mudding and trails, and we are doing a 40" bogger and tsl setup on it with a 16.5 tire im thinking and a little wider on the axle to make it a prone to the stand

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #3 on:** Jun 29, 2007, 05:34:33 PM »

fair enough. I was just curious on why you chose that lift

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #4 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 08:14:06 AM »

ya it was all perfect in my eyes because with that tire setup which is a 40inch by 16.5 i wouldnt be to top heavy and tippy like the 4 runners if you get them up their so im hopping it works good

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #5 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 09:00:17 AM »

high-roller

how about starting a project thread when U start

would also like 2 see some pics

i have a 93 and i plan on the same setup at BD but at 6" no rocks here in SO NJ

Loosekannon · « **Reply #6 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 10:03:21 PM »

I had a 7 inch lift between springs and BD with 38's. I wheeled fine at the Hammers with it. But there was that one time I had a 35 MPH roll on a flat dirt road

But in the rocks it was great.

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #7 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 10:16:05 PM »

hell ya man ill try to get some on here asap i just put on some warn bumpers and a new winch and a smaller after market steering wheel on today i kind of changed my mind a bout some stuff im not going to do the solid axle i dont see many people run the ifs so im going to try to make the ifs all it can be and if it cant be that then im going to do the sas i have most of the parts already to do the sas but i want to see wat happens so we will find out but i will get you some pic once i get to it
talk to you later man

Loosekannon · « **Reply #8 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 10:22:50 PM »

Run-on sentence much???

Just messing around $Beer Chug\'n$

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #9 on:** Jun 30, 2007, 10:42:18 PM »

in most minds IFS sucks, but I say go for it, remember ifs is really really weak cvs, steering, diff. are all weak points, I have broken diffs and steering arms and cvs on a stock89 with 31s so go figure.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 07:08:24 AM »

Quote from: 86bobbedtoy on Jun 30, 2007, 10:42:18 PM

in most minds IFS sucks, but I say go for it, remember ifs is really really weak cvs, steering, diff. are all weak points, I have broken diffs and steering arms and cvs on a stock89 with 31s so go figure.

............ what where you doing

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 03:02:28 PM »

Well it was a v6 extcab 1st shattered diff gears going up a rocky hill. 2nd broke left cv in the mud and hit a hard spot(snap) 3rd they had a recall on the steering arm, I got a new one after sheering it off, mid terrain off road, dry. But thats just me I murder little stock toys, thats why I build them

dirtchicken · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 03:50:31 PM »

Quote from: 86bobbedtoy on Jun 30, 2007, 10:42:18 PM

in most minds IFS sucks, but I say go for it, remember ifs is really really weak cvs, steering, diff. are all weak points, I have broken diffs and steering arms and cvs on a stock89 with 31s so go figure.

X2. I went through 3 Cv shafts in less in a month on 33s and I was nowhere near beating the truck. Straight axle is the only way to go.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 03:55:14 PM »

why 16.5s? you wont be able to air them down, as they don't have a safety bead like traditional rims... well unless you run some type of beadlock, or just dont care about airing down at all

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 08:01:01 PM »

Quote from: jimbo74 on Jul 01, 2007, 03:55:14 PM

why 16.5s? you wont be able to air them down, as they don't have a safety bead like traditional rims... well unless you run some type of beadlock, or just dont care about airing down at all

verrrry true..

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 08:21:16 PM »

well like i said i have the straight axle but i was thinking ill give the ifs a fair chance. but I'm starting with replacing tie ends with hyme links well wat ever i can replace with them. and their ain't much i can do about the cvs but well find out and we're looking at some stuff to do with the rest of the steering and pretty much we are beefing up everything we can so........ but i just got some new tires for it to 37" by 12.5 by 15. their the goodyear mt-r's their real nice so well will see how they do, but i have every thing to make this stocker a whole new rig but i just need to do it, so if this setup dont work I'm going to run the sas with the 40.0/16.5/15 boggers and tsl's its just nice that i have everything for both so if i dont like it i can change right away

cant wait but here is a pic of it now after the bumpers and the winch and other little stupid stuff like steering wheel and shift nobe type stuff

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 01, 2007, 08:24:23 PM »

well i should have been more technical about it its 16.5 wide and the reason i would do that is cause in the mud you dont have to air down much so that is most of the reason for that and i mostly do only mud and some trails

Redeyejedi · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 02, 2007, 11:31:33 AM »

i thought ifs was good for pre-running, baja racing and stuff....while the straight axle provided much more articulation and stoutness for extreme terrain?

jvministries · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 04, 2007, 06:13:46 PM »

hey I just wanted to add that 33s and ifs work ok together
but with tires bigger than that they aren't much good
especially when lifted
since the cvs are angled more
but most breakage happens under full throttle or full steering lock
both of which happen a lot in the mud
that combined with lots of lift an lots of tire = breakage

the whole front design of the ifs is a good idea but weak when used with larger tires

but let me say my friend Kevin runs 38.5 16.5 15 tsls on a lifted ifs rig wilth zero breakage
but he doesn't wheel it much at all
he is more of a mall\street wheeler
he has ventured out with us a few time and gotten it muddy but nothing major

his truck has a combination of several lifts one being a 3 inch lift with new lower arms and stuff and another being a body lift with the last being twisted torsion bars and blocks. he runs three inches of body lift three and a half of suspension and another inch of torsion plus the tires which makes his truck one really tall beast.

mudbrother1992 · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 04, 2007, 10:34:18 PM »

cool well we will see i suppose i want to try to make it strong some how because no one who wheels hard runs it and i no why because they think its weak but that is why i want to try to see what i can do to change that and maybe their is nothing but wont hurt to try. ya so im going to try to run a 37 inch tire, and the other day me and my buddie started doing the sas in his truck and asked if i want to buy the whole ifs setup that was in his and i said ya, so i got a locker for the front and when i do the swap ill be able to get ride of the
"add" crap in the front so i think im on to a good start. but we will see who no's i might be doing the sas in a couple months ill keep yall posted

thanks
josh

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