What lift for my DD project?

Started by YotaNate, August 13, 2009, 07:02:49 PM

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YotaNate

Hello it's me again!

 Hey everyone, it's time to shop for the lift / tires!  I'm wanting to run a 33/12:50 BFG AT and I want just enough suspension lift to clear them with ZERO cutting.  My truck is very original and I do not want to cut any metal at all.  I was looking at this lift....

http://www.roughcountry.com/toyota_4wd_79-85_3.html

The version WITH rear springs (No Blocks I hate axle wrap!)  Has anyone run this lift?  I would LOVE Marlins 4" but it's more than my DD needs I think.  I just want to replace the worn out springs/shocks with new equipment and run a 33" tire.  After the lift my next upgrade will be Marlin's Hi-Steer kit.  He's building my new Tranny right now (went with the HD yay!).  Thank you all for any input you have, and please feel free to give me idea's on other Lift Kit's as well!  I'm looking for a new kit nothing from the junkyard, we do not have any decent ones here for miles.

Here is a Link to my build thread....

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=60787.new#new


Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

toyomr285

After you put on the lift and slap on the 33's, are you going to upgrade your birfields and regear?

8D3TOY

Affordable, nice ride, modest lift to fit 33-35" tire, www.downeyoff-road.com Rough country is exactly as advertized, rough.

crazykooter

If you dont want to cut then 4" lift is right for 33s but thats more along the lines of actually flexing the axles.  If you dont plan to trail it then just get a soft lift spring.  Some fo the ranchos and tough country springs are like riding in a duce and a half.  Very rough and well what I like to call kidney punchers.  Spend the money on good springs or just do the 63 chevys and rears  up front.

emsvitil

33 10.50s should fit in the fenders.................
Ed
SoCal
86 SR5 XtraCab
22RE  W56B
31x10.50R15

spc mike

Quote from: 8D3TOY on August 13, 2009, 11:09:43 PM
Affordable, nice ride, modest lift to fit 33-35" tire, www.downeyoff-road.com Rough country is exactly as advertized, rough.

Downy off road is no more....thats why none of their links will work.

spc mike

Has anybody added leafs from like a S-10 or somthing similar to the factory leaf pack to gain lift??

Tyler82toy

i had the that exact lift on my truck and was not pleased the ride was rough had a bunch of body roll and the leafs started bowing up in the center i got the marlin 4in and am very pleased they are more stable flex better and are a better ride

82juguete

Everyone wants to start off with the rough countrys or procomps because the price tag is so tempting....but after a year of enduring the rough ride and bouncing when your junking them cause they bent, is it really worth it???  Thats my experience at least.  If my truck hadnt come with the procomp springs when i bought it I def would've gone with 63s and RUF until i could shell out for the Marlins...

hilux-1983

I've always installed a 5"-6" lift in my 1st gens which is equal or very close to MC 5" springs. I've had rancho, superlift, skyjacker and now NWOR. Back in the day I didn't know about MC. When $$$$ starts coming in again after getting a job I WILL be installing MC 5" springs front and rear. Longer thinner and more leafs is the way to go. My rig is a DD as well trail ready and I tow a 16' trailer with the toys from time to time. So, everyday comfort is a plus as well as the nice flex those springs put out. As for the lift? I never started with a 3". I knew that I liked 35" tires w/ 529's and went from there. With the kidney blaster springs I have now, I can stuff the 35"s into the wheel wells when necessary, just a rough ride that's all. Hope this helps.
DD, 22R, L52HD, 35"s, All pro/Marlin Hysteer, 529's, Aussie Locker in rear only. 5" All Pro springs and 5" shackles. Just purpose built and dependable. A/C blows like ice too... www.4x4HIM.org

79coyotefrg

Quote from: spc mike on August 13, 2009, 11:18:29 PM
Has anybody added leafs from like a S-10 or somthing similar to the factory leaf pack to gain lift??
yes  i have and it worked very nicely,

i used the top two leaves of my stock front packs and installed the 2wd S10 leaves under those  it rode GREAT,  and i ran them for like 4 years wheeling and daily driving





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79coyotefrg

and if i had it to do again i would keep my stock steering


esp for you Nate because you want to keep it "uncut"   and you have to cut,drill,weld to go hi-steer
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79coyotefrg

and my yota/s10 springs gave me 3 1/2 inches of lift and bolted right into the stock locations
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YotaNate

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Quote from: 79coyotefrg on August 14, 2009, 04:33:18 PM
and my yota/s10 springs gave me 3 1/2 inches of lift and bolted right into the stock locations

I am going to look into that, sounds like a great option!  All I want is bolt in springs that will allow me to run a 33 BFG AT and ride nice for a DD.  I plan on getting the very best shocks I can afford also.
  Where would I be able to find those and will they work front and rear?  We don't have sh*t for junkyards here....

Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

79coyotefrg

Quote from: TJNate on August 14, 2009, 05:07:16 PM
I am going to look into that, sounds like a great option!  All I want is bolt in springs that will allow me to run a 33 BFG AT and ride nice for a DD.  I plan on getting the very best shocks I can afford also.
  Where would I be able to find those and will they work front and rear?  We don't have sh*t for junkyards here....

Nate
look for the old kinda square shaped S10 its gotta be 2wd

the pack i got had 5 leaves in it and they matched the width of the yota leaves perfectly

you have to keep your top 2 leaves,  every thing else (on the front anyway) can be tossed
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

spc mike

.....so you used the entire s-10 leaf pack (minus the top main leaf) under the 2 toyota springs ? what did you do for the rear?
I appreciate all the info!

79coyotefrg

Quote from: spc mike on August 14, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
.....so you used the entire s-10 leaf pack (minus the top main leaf) under the 2 toyota springs ? what did you do for the rear?
I appreciate all the info!
if memory serves me correctly i used the top leaf from the S10 pack and cut the ends off so it was the same length as the 2nd leaf in my stock rear pack, i cant remember but its all in my build thread somewhere
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=5628.0
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

8D3TOY

Downey is gone??? How do you know?  I know alot of people bash them but I thought they were doing well with Taco parts.  I guess their market for SFA trucks is going away, bummer because they were the best bang for the buck.

Rocksurfer

A 3 or 4 inch lift and longer shackles, 33's will fit like a charm.
The Ghost-Rider/Ghost Runner

No matter how far you fall, the ground will always catch you

YotaNate

What about this lift kit? 

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/cgi-bin/suscon/537013.html

Has anyone run this kit?  Just looking for a nice ride and a little more tire.  Muddy fire-roads and snow are about all she will ever see. 

Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

YotaNate

Looking at these springs to....

http://www.northwestoffroad.com/parts/suspension3_lift.html

I would LOVE Marlins but I cannot weld and there is no way I could afford to just "Drop off" the truck and have a shop (that we don't have here anyway) do the install.

Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

Larryb

What is the price for the NWOR kit. I can't seem to find it while on my mobile?

Quote from: TJNate on August 15, 2009, 01:36:22 PM
Looking at these springs to....

http://www.northwestoffroad.com/parts/suspension3_lift.html

I would LOVE Marlins but I cannot weld and there is no way I could afford to just "Drop off" the truck and have a shop (that we don't have here anyway) do the install.

Nate

YotaNate

Quote from: Larryb on August 15, 2009, 02:22:07 PM
What is the price for the NWOR kit. I can't seem to find it while on my mobile?


There does not seem to be one on the site, I looked everywhere for it.  I guess you just have to call.

Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

8D3TOY

A guy I know has the NWOR springs(84 Xcab) and his rides about the same as mine does with the stock springs kinda bouncy but his handles like its on rails even with 33's.

mudmaster

Time to go wheelin!

YotaNate

Quote from: mudmaster on August 15, 2009, 10:29:27 PM
What about OME??

I know they make springs but I could not figure out what part number I would need or even how much lift they provided.

Nate
"A CNN reporter, while interviewing a Marine Sniper asked.  What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?
The Marine shrugged and replied, "Recoil."

mudmaster

Give them a call they'll help you out
Time to go wheelin!

Brownbag40