Topic: ifs rearend, 2x4=4x4?

[mudguts]

Just purchased a set 2" wheel spacers for the front of my 84 Runner from Marlins shop. I am now committed to the wider ifs rear end. Exactly what rear ends will bolt in and are the 2x4 and 4x4 the same? On Daves recomendation at the shop, "Thanks Dave", I went to a wrecking yard in South Fresno where I found 4 4x4 rearends at a cost of 450$ each. Ouch! I think I can find one cheaper if I go on a hunt.

[WHITE_TRASH]

Dang! that is too much!  For that kinda cash you could get a isuzu dana 44 with discs up here.
WT

[KYOTA]

Check the for sale section here or on Pirate, you shouldnt have to pay more than around $100 for one

[lowgeared]

Why do you need spacers??  My 84 has an ifs rear and you'd probably need a straight edge to see the difference.  I was going to buy some too until I got the axle in.  Glad I saved my $$.

[Brandon]

unless it's a one ton it won't have 6 lug nuts (it will have 5)

[81Toy4x]

The 2x4 and 4x4 rearends aren't the same.  The 2x4 is a Toyota 7.5" and the 4x4 is a Toyota 8".  And another difference is that the 2x4 is 5 lug and the 4x4 is 6 lug. 

[brainlessfool]

anther ? to throw in the mix. isant a 84 going to have a wide axle in it already?  86 was the frist year for it but its still the same body style? isant it? so way the need for spacers up front if going with an IFS rear?  heak, don't you have the same rear now? (obveyusley not a V-6 rear)



    I don't know, butt hey, I'm the fool here

[WHITE_TRASH]

Nope.  The wide axle didnt start till the ifs era so the trackwidths would match up.  All solid axle rigs had the narrow rear.

[brainlessfool]

so an 86 rear is wider than an 85 rear?

[WHITE_TRASH]

Thats correct.

[kyle_22r]

yep.  about 3 inches wider, if i'm not mistaken.

[brainlessfool]

butt 85&86 are the same body? do they have an inset on the rims?

[WHITE_TRASH]

No the solid axle trucks have more offset than the ifs era trucks.  I think that you can use some of the stock alloy wheels from the ifs era but not all of them will fit on the older stuff due to the offset and wheel/caliper contact.

[brainlessfool]

so you could put a set of 85 rear wheels on a 86 and make it wider??

[WHITE_TRASH]

yep that would do it.  Heres a pic of the 94, notice that tires stick out a bit.  If I put those wheels and tires on a 85 and prior they wouldnt stick out.  But on a ifs axle they stick out about an inch and a half.

[brainlessfool]

cool good info, not that I have anything close to a 86+ to try it on

[jvmin2]

the 84 axle is narrower by three inches than an 86 we put my mags from my 84 on a friends 86 truck and it was a lot wider and the tires stuck out all the way around.

[mudguts [OP]]

Hey Guys, thanks for all the great info. I went to Marlins shop Thursday the 13th and purchased an ifs rear drum to drum .Dave at the shop also gave me some good info. I just need to get some Chevys for the rear and I'll be god to go. Then I'll start on the front.44044's .  I can't buy you guys a beer but I can give yall a point