Author Topic: to much for hubs? (Read 2861 times)

donutman126 · « **on:** Apr 23, 2007, 10:49:53 AM »

I have an 85 toyota and it has auto locking hubs. This person is selling some aisin hubs with gaskets and o-rings but no cone washers and nuts for 120 bucks. They are painted and look basically brand new, do guys think 120 bucks is to much? Also how much do you think i could get for my auto hubs if any? Thanks

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 10:58:04 AM »

nope, sounds like a fair price!!! make sure they are solid axle hubs and not the IFS hubs!!! umm... i dont know who runs autos.... i wouldnt use them personally but you might get $60-$80???

SACD_Runner · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 11:07:08 AM »

Quote from: donutman126 on Apr 23, 2007, 10:49:53 AM

I have an 85 toyota and it has auto locking hubs. This person is selling some aisin hubs with gaskets and o-rings but no cone washers and nuts for 120 bucks. They are painted and look basically brand new, do guys think 120 bucks is to much? Also how much do you think i could get for my auto hubs if any? Thanks

i would try and talk him down a bit, you can get junk yard hubs for 50$ and paint them yourself. Plus you'll need cone washers, i think malin has them, but it must be a typo. 3.29 for one cone washer...? lets hope its a set.
Your auto's are going to be hard to sell, every wants manuals. but technically if you could sell them you might get 50$.
hope this helps.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 11:13:16 AM »

Those were the first things I got rid of on my truck.

Marlin carries all of the seals and washers for the hubs.

I personally don't think you could get anything for them, since no one who wheels will want them.

what ever you do get rid of the auto lockers!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 11:30:28 AM »

i bet that it is 3.29 for 1 cone washer.... parts, espeicailly that one part no one can ever find are worth way more than the assembly itself..... i bought my 4x4 for $500, if i were to part it out right now, i could probably get at least double that, sa, tc, trans, rear axle, doors, hood, cab, etc

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 02:41:10 PM »

$3,29 is EACH, for cone washers,

Marlin has the same manual hubs for $290 each, NOT a set EACH so if you want them go get them thats not bad at all for a clean set, just make dang sure they are solid axle lockouts and NOT ifs lockouts, the ifs lockouts have 27 spline and are slightly smaller diameter inside

DTB · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 03:01:06 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Apr 23, 2007, 02:41:10 PM

$3,29 is EACH, for cone washers,

Marlin has the same manual hubs for $290 each, NOT a set EACH

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 03:48:55 PM »

so the SA have 30 splines in the hub right?? and then 27 in the birfield and 30 in the carrier.... correct me if i am wrong please!

Gittinit · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 04:30:45 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Apr 23, 2007, 03:48:55 PM

so the SA have 30 splines in the hub right?? and then 27 in the birfield and 30 in the carrier.... correct me if i am wrong please!

You got it right that is why I pmed pics of those hubs on a birf.... to show they are 30 spline.

Gittinit · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 04:33:23 PM »

At the risk of hyjacking this thread......What are the differences between IFS lockouts and solid axle lockouts besides the hub gear splines/diameter?

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 04:41:26 PM »

Quote from: gittinit on Apr 23, 2007, 04:33:23 PM

At the risk of hyjacking this thread......What are the differences between IFS lockouts and solid axle lockouts besides the hub gear splines/diameter?

I'm not positive, but I think that is the only (and BIG ) difference

I've had two side by side, and had to count the splines to make sure I was putting the IFS ones back on

but at the time I wasn't looking for the differences other than that

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 05:19:43 PM »

NICE!!! thats what i thought!!! i see that sky has a kit to put IFS on a straight axle?? how does that work?? it kind of confuses me!!! hey gittinit, my paypal should have the $$$ in it tomorrow sometime if it isn't lying to me!!! i will let you know right away though!!!!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 05:35:16 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Apr 23, 2007, 05:19:43 PM

NICE!!! thats what i thought!!! i see that sky has a kit to put IFS on a straight axle?? how does that work?? it kind of confuses me!!! hey gittinit, my paypal should have the $$$ in it tomorrow sometime if it isn't lying to me!!! i will let you know right away though!!!!

i have a thread somewhere on here about this, you cannot mount ifs lockouts on the SA... what you can do is mount part of the hub body of the ifs with a spacer from sky that will allow you to widen the front end a few inches, its the same as just throwing on a wheel spacer..... again, the ifs lockout (turny thing) will not fit on a solid axle, at all, no way, no how.....

SACD_Runner · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 08:46:33 PM »

Trying to put IFS lockouts on a SA would be like putting a square peg in a round hole. It wont fit. to little of splines/diameter. Personally i would rather go with spacers, then again ive never spaced out a hub befor.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 09:04:34 PM »

ok... thanks for clearing that up!!! i didnt think it made much sense the way they have it worded on their website!!! yeah, i'm going with 1.5 inch spacers to match to my 92 rear axle! i'm getting SA hubs but i already have 3 sets of ifs soo....

donutman126 · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 23, 2007, 10:06:52 PM »

Are the toyota land cruiser fj60 hubs the same as the the 85 pickup hubs?

fullthrottle · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 24, 2007, 03:09:34 AM »

Quote from: BLACKDOG on Apr 23, 2007, 04:41:26 PM

I'm not positive, but I think that is the only (and BIG ) difference I've had two side by side, and had to count the splines to make sure I was putting the IFS ones back on but at the time I wasn't looking for the differences other than that

yes that is right the only differenc is the inner hub gear, bobylong make inner hub gears that will convert an ifs lookout to a SA lookout.
thats the way to go because you can easaly find ifslookouts

Gittinit · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 24, 2007, 08:31:26 AM »

Quote from: jimbo74 on Apr 23, 2007, 05:35:16 PM

i have a thread somewhere on here about this, you cannot mount ifs lockouts on the SA... what you can do is mount part of the hub body of the ifs with a spacer from sky that will allow you to widen the front end a few inches, its the same as just throwing on a wheel spacer..... again, the ifs lockout (turny thing) will not fit on a solid axle, at all, no way, no how.....

I have put a solid axle gear into a hub, so I know that will work. My main concern is wheather or not the gear will contact the splines corectly.
Are you trying to tell us that the hub dials will bottom on the birf?
I would like to read your old post on this. Will ya give me a link Please Jimbo?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 24, 2007, 08:49:04 AM »

Quote from: gittinit on Apr 24, 2007, 08:31:26 AM

I have put a solid axle gear into a hub, so I know that will work. My main concern is wheather or not the gear will contact the splines corectly.
Are you trying to tell us that the hub dials will bottom on the birf?
I would like to read your old post on this. Will ya give me a link Please Jimbo?

the only difference IS the inner gear, if you have some ifs lockouts, you can get the inner gear from Bobby and convert them to solid axle

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 24, 2007, 09:27:12 AM »

NO

man............... i have three sets of ifs lockouts and one set only has 50,000 miles on the truck i pulled them off.... soo you guys are POSITIVE that you can throw a set of chromoly hub gears in from bobby long and they will work perfectly?

fullthrottle · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 03:19:30 AM »

when you call boby tell him you ar going to be you ifs lookouts with his inner hub gears, because he makes to different gears one for SA lookouts and the other for ifs convertion lookouts.

i think that the steel and bras rece that holds the inner hubgear is in a slitly different place on the ifs lookouts, if i remember right i think its like .048 thousands different

fullthrottle · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 03:27:34 AM »

"O" i should say this too you can put stock SA inner hubgears in a ifs lookout and it will work, but the .048 difference makes it so that you can't put the snap ring on the end of the brf.

that is y boby started makeing a different inner gear for the ifs lookout because if you don't ues the snapring the brf can move in and out whter or not this is a problem i don't konw, i couldn't find bobys posts on pirat about it

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 10:28:21 AM »

nice!! well i'm just gonna run SA hubs with Bobbys hub gears.... that way its all the way it should be!!

All_Set · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 12:07:03 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Apr 23, 2007, 09:04:34 PM

ok... thanks for clearing that up!!! i didnt think it made much sense the way they have it worded on their website!!! yeah, i'm going with 1.5 inch spacers to match to my 92 rear axle! i'm getting SA hubs but i already have 3 sets of ifs soo....

Sky's kit is for an IFS Hub body. Not locking hubs.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 12:12:18 PM »

gotcha.... it all makes perfect sense to me now!! thats what i was thinking in the first place but the way they word it on there it made it seem like you could use the lockouts!!

All_Set · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 01:32:40 PM »

This is from the Sky site.
""What is a Widening Kit?

What this spacer does is allow you to run IFS wheel hubs on a strait axle front end. IFS wheel hubs wheel flanges are offset further to allow the front ends of these trucks to match up to the rear, which is 58 inch's wide. A pair of these CNC machined spacers is needed to adapt either your current solid axle rotors and calipers, or the upgraded IFS V6 calipers and FJ-40 or FJ-60 series vented rotors. We supply all needed hardware to bolt this spacer to the rotor. This can be done in your garage, no special equipment needed. Average install time with correct tools and parts is 2.5 hours.""

I don't see any mention for lockouts.

So, I guess I can see why you're confused!

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 02:02:54 PM »

yes, so basically you might as well save the extra money it would cost for the sky kit and buy a pair of damn 1.5 inch wheel spacers!!!!!!!!!! thats why i just went ahead and bought a pair of SA lockouts!!!!! then i know it is what it is and that is that!!

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