22re

[4runner]

I am thinking of keeping my 22re for my 4runner. But I want more power out of it. I was going to use my 327. Then I was thinking of gettin a vortec engine. Then I rolled my daily driver pickup. So, I pulled the 22re out of my pickup and its been sittin on the garage floor in front of my 4runner for a month know. I rebuilt it complete about a year ago,so I was going to sell it. Now I'm thinking of beefing it up a bit for my 4runner. Does any body got any suggestions? Do you think I can get 200 hp out of it? I would save money on adapters and no screwing around with conversions.But I want some power. It is already bored out 20 over with a RV cam. Have you ever heard of a adjustable timing gear? I was think of one of those and a header. Need to do something with the fuel injection. maybe bigger injectors? Or do you think I would be better of with a vortec 4.3?

All your info is appriciated

[BLUCRUZ]

4.3 vortec would be the best. 200hp out of a 22re is almost a pipe dream, not to mention expensive as hell. It would be cheaper to go with a 4.3 swap.
I rebuilt my 22re with o/s valves, cam, balanced, polished, tri-y, 2.25 exhaust, etc and it still only puts out 137hp on the desktop dyno so? 33% over stock but it cost me over $1250 for parts and machine work!

I have an 10* either way adjustable timing gear, Lc makes one for $110 or so but I got mine off ebay for $90

[brainlessfool]

200 hp from a dd 22re?? not likly.  I rebuilt my 22r last year, spent a lot more than i ment to. you know how those things get going! went with LC max over sized pistons, forged(ouch) , 1 mm over sized exh. vavles, "rv" cam. mild port on the head. tri "Y" header,36 weber carb. mached the intake to the head, clean up the carb base on the maniflod. timing recrve, msd6 box, com. ratio about 10:1,went elct. duel fans. extrunal oil cooler. balince job. oh, and a LC adj. cam gear too. elect fuel pump. I think that covers the high point, anyway I feel its running around 110- 120 hp. don't want to think about the cost of going for 200!! I like the way it runs, but for the $ if I had to do it again I'd do a swap, 4.3. my .02

[4runner]

I thought a 22re was 110-120 hp stock
hell,that isn't much more than a VW
I better go with the last plan and get a vortec 4.3
Do you know if it is still street legal in PA to convert different engines with the new emission laws?
Does anyone want to buy a fresh rebuilt 22re?

[89 toy]

how much and what year is it?

[brainlessfool]

22re is 120hp. my stock 22r was 98.  now maybe 120. eif helps a bit.

[mr4x42u]

I don't know what vw your talking about but 110 hp is wll over any stocker vw..I think the most horse a vw ever put out was 60 hp..I thin k thats on the high side..It may only have been 40hp..

How much are you selling the 22re for..

[4runner]

1985 22r motor with 22re fuel injection
rebuilt less than a year ago, maybe 5000 miles on it
auto machine shop shaved the block and head
hottanked block and head
bored cyl's 20 thousands
checked over the crank and rods
new pistons,crome moly rings,rod + main bearings,thrust washers,timing chain and gears,oil pump,crane cam,rocker arms,gaskets,and whatever I missed
I'll sell complete with computer and wiring for $1000
I got the tranny and transfercase too
I've got oversized valves and a adjustable timing gear never installed also
I'm not sure about shipping

I'm thinking about a 22ret,how much power do they have? maybe with a garett turbo?

[NWyoat]

you can get 400+ hp (naturaly asperated) out of a toy 4-banger if you build it right.  

[4runner]

what do you mean by naturaly asperated? does that mean turbocharged

[brainlessfool]

turbo is not "naturaly asperated" its just a carb or EFI. butt for 400 HP going "nat" I think you'ed need (forgive the spelling) niturs.

[ToyotaMax]

naturally asperated means no forced induction such as a turbo or supercharger. 400 hp is possible. People build 1.8L n/a Honda motors to that much

[edymrx]

I'm looking for a good idling performance cam for my 22re for my 94 2wd-anyone got suggestions?

[84runner]

TRD Stage 1

[Prismo]

Enginebuilder in Portland, Or makes a decent cam (will not ship further than west coast). Doa also has a pretty good cam.

[BLUCRUZ]

http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotLicks.htm

Good Quality & he backs it up! He will give great advice if you call him with questions.

[mr4x42u]

I have been told the cam doa sells is the same cam l/c engineering sells..


Brainless,, --is NITROUS what your looking for?

I don't think you want a 400hp 22r in a crawler..You want more tourqe over hp for crawling..If its just more power you want swap in a 22ret like you said..Thats an easy 200 hp with a few small mods and still in the drivable and reliable stage with no worries..

[LA_Fred]

Why not swap in a  3.4L with a supercharger? Talk about power and bulletproof but maybe too much $$$

my .02

[84runner]

Hey if you have a toyota dealer install your TRD supercharger they give you 3 year warranty with it 

[Prismo]

Hey if you have a toyota dealer install your TRD supercharger they give you 3 year warranty with it 

They should for the amount they charge! 

[Jimmyg]

It can sure add up fast, I'm not sure bout the 120 Horses I think the 22r was 90HP and the 22re was 150 wasn't it I'm runnin 4.56 gearing, thirtythree inch x 13.5 Baja Claws and although one will always want MORE POWER 8) so far I'm happy and still using fifth gear, even on some hills. I've planned my buildup over time to include a Garret T3/T4 Turbo set up. Still need to do the bottom including pistons. I'm sure the boys running the off-road racing and stadium trucks are runnin more than one twenty

[brainlessfool]

my book says (for calif.) the 22r is 98 and the 22re is 118 hp.

and yes the boy with the big $$$ trucks are getting more than 120 from there 22re's
butt i have no idea how much

[Celerity]

The TRD supercharger is a v-sitting intake manifold replacement.  In other words, it's not for inline engines.  I'm looking out right now for a supercharger on Ebay. Eaton makes one, and you can pick it up now for about $500.  It will need flowed injectors and some room on the intake side of the engine, but all in all it's a good price.

Problem is, they don't make them anymore. It's getting tougher and tougher to find one.

-> Steve

[79coyotefrg]

4runner ,  LCEngineering sells a turbo kit , including turbo,header, wastegate,incab controller and all hardware for $2500,  this is over 400hp
with factory injectors 150hp is about tops,  but with oversize injectors,BIG valves .510 /285* cam,     some drag racers are pushing 600hp thru 22rte with twin turbos 

brainless,  what lift and duration is your cam??   with my LC cam and 20/22 hybrid i was getting 160+ hp

with side drafts, 48mm/40mm valves and a .510 lift 320* cam you'll have well over 200ponies

[blyota91]

I've heard that the stock 22re intake manifold won't flow enough air to put out more than 180hp.  To get that much is some serious money too.  I do believe it can be done, but honestly who is gonna spend that much when they could swap in a 4.3 with more power and have a much more reliable and driveable engine.  As to 400hp hondas, yeah it can be done but those engines rev to about 9k, much shorter stroke, and make very little torque.  The stroke in a 22re is pretty long, which makes for more torque and the bore is big too, which all combined makes things pretty heavy, which slows the whole thing down and adds drage and sucks out power.  I've got some stuff done to my 22re and I have no idea what kind of power I'm making, but I'm happy with it.  I'm going to rebuild my bottom end this winter, that will make a huge difference, a fresh engine vs 189k.

[79coyotefrg]

the stock R crank is a forged steel crank, and is almost perfectly balanced from the factory. heavy doesnt mean much when its balanced, also 89mm isnt that much stroke.  trust me i have seen 20R's turning 8000 rpm,  not stock by anymeans 
yes in STOCK form, 180hp is about all you will get  but ported , flow balanced oversize injectors, cam, dual springs, and all the goodies 

[kyle_22r]

the 20R/22R have a pretty beefy bottom end.  forged crank and a high nickel content block.  while they aren't the highest revving motors due to their "long" stroke, they'll still get up there(my friend's stock 20R in his '78 pickup could hit 8000RPM).

if you think about it, doing a proper engine swap with something non-toyota(say, stock TBI 4.3, 170hp or so) or putting an LC supercharger/turbo kit(170hp easily) with forged pistons will cost about the same.  which route you choose is up to you, but the 4 banger is probably going to be maxed out more.

i spell torque B-U-I-C-K in my book, no matter what the haters say