Author Topic: The best way to get 7" of lift with lots of travel in the rear...? (Read 10182 times)

DeMented Toys · « **on:** Jan 23, 2007, 08:34:39 AM »

It's time for me to replace my stock rear springs with their add-a-leaf and 5" blocks.

Ha Ha The combination of axle wrap. wheel hop, no flex and no lockers just isn't doing it for me any more. I have a set of chevy springs I was thinking of swapping on there, but I neet to get 7" of lift to match the front...

From what I can figure, the chevy springs will give me about 3-4 inches of lift. I could get a couple inches from longer shackles and maybe add a 2 inch block or something to end up wit 7" total... I know I could buy new lift springs, but don't want to go that way if I can get around it. I would like to make the chevy springs work. Any ideas or thoughts?

skid · « **Reply #1 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 08:51:26 AM »

My view, you gotta pay to play. 5" marlin rear springs would be the best start. If more was needed, some longer shackles and drop hangers could be made. Too much drop hanger could make for a rock anchor though.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 08:59:11 AM »

toss some stock leaves in the chevy springs, and get longer shackles, leave the blocks in the garage....

Tallchevy · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 09:27:01 AM »

The way you want to set it up will get you the 7". I have that same set up. I don't like blocks but until I figure out something else I'm stuck with it! I'm thinking of pulling out one leaf in the front.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 09:27:52 AM »

if you mean the 63 inch chevies sellthem to some one else, they are really thick and wont mix with toy leaves

get a set of 2wd F150 extended cab springs, 88-94 they will give you 5 inches then use a longer shackle

eightyfive · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:03:11 PM »

get a chevy 63" 3-4" lift springs which should give you 7" of lift....dunno about flex from the lift springs but it'll give you 7" of lift!

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:06:29 PM »

Quote from: Tallchevy350 on Jan 23, 2007, 09:27:01 AM

The way you want to set it up will get you the 7". I have that same set up. I don't like blocks but until I figure out something else I'm stuck with it! I'm thinking of pulling out one leaf in the front.

How is the flex with that setup?

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:15:43 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Jan 23, 2007, 09:27:52 AM

get a set of 2wd F150 extended cab springs, 88-94 they will give you 5 inches then use a longer shackle

F150 extended cab springs?? Tell me more... How do they flex? How do they ride? How do you set them up?

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:17:00 PM »

Quote from: skid on Jan 23, 2007, 08:51:26 AM

My view, you gotta pay to play. 5" marlin rear springs would be the best start. If more was needed, some longer shackles and drop hangers could be made. Too much drop hanger could make for a rock anchor though.

I would like to buy the 5" lift springs, but I have to sell some stuff first!

lilbuddy · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:25:55 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Jan 23, 2007, 09:27:52 AM

if you mean the 63 inch chevies sellthem to some one else, they are really thick and wont mix with toy leaves

get a set of 2wd F150 extended cab springs, 88-94 they will give you 5 inches then use a longer shackle

5 inches my

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LILBUDDY has a 4runner
I figure I got about 1 MAYBE 2 inches out of mine. They are out if exactly what you said and there is NO WAY you will get 5 inches. I had to run 3 inch blocks with 1-2" longer shackels in the rear to match the front which maybe has 5 inches...

WHy do you need 7 inches of lift anyway? I have 5 inches of lift with no body lift running 37s and I dont rub at all.

lilbuddy · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:30:53 PM »

Quote from: snakeeyes on Jan 23, 2007, 05:15:43 PM

F150 extended cab springs?? Tell me more... How do they flex? How do they ride? How do you set them up?

They are great! I had them on my longbed 81 before and now have them on my 86 runner and they are aewwsome. lots of flex, nice ride and are good springs. I moved my spring hanger 5.5 inches forward and used a dual shackle set up and it put the wheel just about center of the wheel well. if anything its about a quarter inch too far forward.

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:36:09 PM »

Quote from: lilbuddy on Jan 23, 2007, 05:25:55 PM

WHy do you need 7 inches of lift anyway? I have 5 inches of lift with no body lift running 37s and I dont rub at all.

I need 7" to match the front... I've never even heard of the F150 spring swap. But 1-2" isn't going to be enough lift if I can get 3-4" out of chevy springs...

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 05:46:04 PM »

what do you have in the front?
You could put your stock rears up front, and put chevies in the rear. That usually balances out pretty well, and you can adjust the packs to fit.

I've got 4" out of my 63"s

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 06:09:35 PM »

Quote from: BLACKDOG on Jan 23, 2007, 05:46:04 PM

what do you have in the front?
You could put your stock rears up front, and put chevies in the rear. That usually balances out pretty well, and you can adjust the packs to fit.

I've got 4" out of my 63"s

Thje front is fine and seems to flex pretty good. It also drives nicely on the highway too, so thats an added bonus. So I am going to leave the front like it is. It has skyjacker 7" softride lift springs on the front. The lift kit from skyjacker came with the rear add-a-leaf and blocks which I have on there now.

Tallchevy · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 11:14:08 PM »

I just flexed it today.

Tallchevy · « **Reply #15 on:** Jan 23, 2007, 11:15:53 PM »

I'm not at home. I'll post the pic later

Tallchevy · « **Reply #16 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 01:57:19 AM »

Here is a pic.

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #17 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 06:35:02 AM »

Cool. Are you running a long single shackle in the rear?

Tallchevy · « **Reply #18 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 10:30:31 AM »

Yeah, those are the longer rear shackles with a drop down shackle. The longer shackle is a Chevy lowering shackle.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #19 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 10:34:36 AM »

if you have the chevies already, throw them under there, and see what the height is. If ya bolt them to the shackle, and let the front eye sit where it would be attached to a hanger, you should get a good idea of the height you'll get. Then you can go from there. You may just need to do an Add-a-leaf or something

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #20 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 10:50:33 AM »

Quote from: lilbuddy on Jan 23, 2007, 05:25:55 PM

5 inches my !!!

I figure I got about 1 MAYBE 2 inches out of mine. They are out if exactly what you said and there is NO WAY you will get 5 inches. I had to run 3 inch blocks with 1-2" longer shackels in the rear to match the front which maybe has 5 inches...

REALLY?? i was sure you had said somewhere that you had that much lift

thats where i was getting the info, besides building springs for other people

lilbuddy · « **Reply #21 on:** Jan 24, 2007, 06:15:36 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Jan 24, 2007, 10:50:33 AM

REALLY?? i was sure you had said somewhere that you had that much lift thats where i was getting the info, besides building springs for other people

Nope I thought it was 5inches at first (cause i had 5inch front springs) then realized it was probably closer to only 3 on my truck (sagged in the rear a lot) and maybe 1-2 on my 4runner. If it got any of a load then they would be almost flat, had nice flex though for sure. I have to run 3inch blocks

on my runner to get the rear close to the front.

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #22 on:** Jan 27, 2007, 08:02:29 AM »

Quote from: Tallchevy350 on Jan 24, 2007, 10:30:31 AM

Yeah, those are the longer rear shackles with a drop down shackle. The longer shackle is a Chevy lowering shackle.

What did you use to make your front hangers?

Tallchevy · « **Reply #23 on:** Jan 27, 2007, 08:09:54 AM »

1/4" angle iron. It's overkill but it won't go anywhere

Matty · « **Reply #24 on:** Jan 27, 2007, 11:01:00 AM »

you would be fine with the chevies. you definitely dont need 7 inches of lift. i ran skyjackers too and they were no where near the actually height they said they were especially after being broken in. maybe more like a marlin 5 inch height wise.

88toyta35s · « **Reply #25 on:** Jan 27, 2007, 08:54:19 PM »

http://www.4x4grace.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4906&start=40
for you guys running blocks these ubolt eliminaters can give you up to 1.5 inches lift its what im getting next with my chevies once i 4 link the front and scroll down the page to look at them

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #26 on:** Feb 05, 2007, 09:09:43 AM »

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2007, 08:24:17 PM »

Okay, finally time to fix my rear. lol

jimbo74 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 06, 2007, 08:29:29 PM »

Quote from: 88toyta35s on Jan 27, 2007, 08:54:19 PM

http://www.4x4grace.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4906&start=40
for you guys running blocks these ubolt eliminaters can give you up to 1.5 inches lift its what im getting next with my chevies once i 4 link the front and scroll down the page to look at them

i like this idea, but liek the hinged spring pads that minisimp runs more....

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #29 on:** May 06, 2007, 09:40:38 PM »

Quote from: 85xtracab on Jan 27, 2007, 11:01:00 AM

you would be fine with the chevies. you definitely dont need 7 inches of lift. i ran skyjackers too and they were no where near the actually height they said they were especially after being broken in. maybe more like a marlin 5 inch height wise.

Did your skyjacker springs make popping noises when they flex / shift?

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