Author Topic: VW TDi in '95 4Runner? (Read 5413 times)

roundhouse · « **on:** Aug 28, 2006, 09:53:02 PM »

ALright, my 3.0 is toast.

And I have a line on a cheap donor car. $1500 for a 98 Jetta.

ANy one have one of these transplants actually driving?

Ive seen several into Samis

I figured with a chip and maybe new injectors, the power would be fine for a DD & work truck.

I read somewhere that all the accys on the TDi are on the same side and cause problems.

rrick · « **Reply #1 on:** Aug 29, 2006, 01:01:00 AM »

Chip and injectors your at 110-115HP, but mucho efficiency. '98 A3 frame TDi engines make far easier conversions, I hear, than the newer A4 "pendulum mount" engines. Yeah, my TDI is sold to get the 4WD, but not looking back, except where it cost me $9 to go somewhere now it is $27, very literally 3 times mpgs, was expecting that though.

Acme Adapters in Oregon makes the engine to 22R tranny adapter kit.

roundhouse · « **Reply #2 on:** Aug 29, 2006, 06:25:29 AM »

You've heard more than I have about the swaps.

I cant find any info anywhere.

I figured with a chip the TDi would be about the same power as the stock 3.0 and about double the MPG.

I have a 74 Bronco that I transplanted a 90 Mustang EFi 5.0 & a 5 speed NV3550 from a TJ.

But the 12 MPG is rough and the no A/C is tough.
And my Suburban gets 9 MPG in town.

Ewong · « **Reply #3 on:** Aug 29, 2006, 09:55:36 AM »

see the TDi website (I thinjk its TDiClub?)

I wonder whathte torque curve is ont he TDI vs the 22RE...

rrick · « **Reply #4 on:** Aug 30, 2006, 04:07:06 PM »

TDI's are awesome engines, they are very rev happy and most horsepower is at the far end of the 900-5100rpm range. With a standard drive by wire throttle control, my new beetle would not stall at idle rpm in first and at incline. I routeinly shifted to third gear from a stop without ever touching the throttle. Torque curve is nice declining tabletop starting at 1900RPM peak, but things can get bent and turbocharger blades cavitate and crash with large throttle input from intense low rpm ft*lbs, so gentle throttle at low RPMS, spin up rpms for less torque/more HP. TDICLUB.com, look up some of my posts, rrick, I did a killer propane setup that worked very nicely.

zooky · « **Reply #5 on:** Sep 01, 2006, 10:24:16 PM »

I just started swapping a VW 1.6TD into an automatic 2WD pickup using Acme's kit

Mattinker · « **Reply #6 on:** Sep 03, 2006, 02:17:40 AM »

Have a look at http://toyotadieselmadness.com/ lots of info including references to the TDI engine.

Matthew

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #7 on:** Sep 07, 2006, 02:08:18 PM »

Zuk guys have also done a lot of these swaps: http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/board,48.0.html

Spulen81 · « **Reply #8 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 10:30:23 AM »

I am working on swapping one into my 1st Gen 4Runner right now. Grab that donor asap at that price. That is a steal! And you are right about the accessories, they are all on one side which would be the drives side. I plan on using all VW accessories.

One thing you would have to do it so convert to a 4cylinder transmission. The adapter kit is only for that trans.

854RUN · « **Reply #9 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 10:58:28 AM »

what kind of gas mileage are yall expecting? Spulen81 do you have any pics

Spulen81 · « **Reply #10 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 11:27:25 AM »

I'm hoping for 30mpg hwy with 31s and a nice power increase. I have pics but they are mostly mock up shots, nothing great yet. With any luck I will make some more progress this weekend. I am doing a write up with pics that I will probably post up here when I'm done.

Ewong · « **Reply #11 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 11:33:01 AM »

Not to hijack this thread - but I was debating the TDi vs 2LT conversion and some people are getitng 28-30+mpg on a 2LT diesel.

See thread here:

http://www.toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16285#post16285

Spulen81 · « **Reply #12 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 11:57:55 AM »

Thanks for posting that.. good info. The VW TDI is very similar in power output to the 2LT stock so it should do about the same.

Ewong · « **Reply #13 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 12:08:11 PM »

Is there a "dyno chart" for the 2LT somewhere?
Or for that matter - a 22RE?

The appeal of the 2LTE is that its a bolt up to a 22RE truck.
The TDi looks like a 22RE in terms of redline but lower HP and MORE torque (or at least a FLAT Line)

Spulen81 · « **Reply #14 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 12:18:19 PM »

I don't have a dyno put from the link you posted I found an FAQ page that had another link and another link to the toyota engine specs. The VW TDI is 90/150. The euro spec 1.9 TDI made 100HP so they are very evenly matched IMO. The main thing I like about the VW engine is there is huge support for it, its very easy to mod and easy to find parts for in the US.

2L-T   SOHC   2   82-   2446*   92@4000   159@2400   92   92   22.2:1
2L-T   SOHC   2   86   2446*   96@4000   141@2400   92   92   20:1
2L-T   SOHC   2   86   2446*   105@4000   156@2400   92   92   21:1 (Crown with auto trans)
2L-T   SOHC   2   -90+   2446*   93@4000   159@2400   92   92   20:1
2L-T   SOHC   2      2446   85@4000   139@2400
2L-TE         82-84   2446
2L-THE         84-   2446   94@4000   148@2800   92   92   21:1
2L-THE         -90+   2446*   99@3800   163@2400   92   92   21:1

Duffil · « **Reply #15 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 02:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Ewong on Sep 08, 2006, 12:08:11 PM

Is there a "dyno chart" for the 2LT somewhere?
Or for that matter - a 22RE?

The appeal of the 2LTE is that its a bolt up to a 22RE truck.
The TDi looks like a 22RE in terms of redline but lower HP and MORE torque (or at least a FLAT Line)

rrick · « **Reply #16 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 02:30:40 PM »

Nice usage of the entire scale on that dyno graph; were you, perhaps, a bit optimistic?

cant find im sarcastic smiley so

Duffil · « **Reply #17 on:** Sep 08, 2006, 07:22:25 PM »

Sorry, should I scale it back a little?

roundhouse · « **Reply #18 on:** Sep 10, 2006, 02:31:08 PM »

Post some pics please!

I will swap to a 5 speed anyway, a slushbox behind a diesel just isnt right.

Im pondering the Lexus V-8 swap, if I did that Id use the auto because it would save the a boatload of cash. The adapter for the Lex 8 to the toyota 5 speed is megabucks, cause you gotta buy a custom bellhousing, & flywheel, and a custom computer too I think.

Quote from: Spulen81 on Sep 08, 2006, 10:30:23 AM

I am working on swapping one into my 1st Gen 4Runner right now. Grab that donor asap at that price. That is a steal! And you are right about the accessories, they are all on one side which would be the drives side. I plan on using all VW accessories.

One thing you would have to do it so convert to a 4cylinder transmission. The adapter kit is only for that trans.

Quote from: Spulen81 on Sep 08, 2006, 10:30:23 AM

I am working on swapping one into my 1st Gen 4Runner right now. Grab that donor asap at that price. That is a steal! And you are right about the accessories, they are all on one side which would be the drives side. I plan on using all VW accessories.

One thing you would have to do it so convert to a 4cylinder transmission. The adapter kit is only for that trans.

Spulen81 · « **Reply #19 on:** Sep 11, 2006, 06:42:14 AM »

I will but its gonna be a while yet.

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