need cheap tricks!! post them up.(black squirl build)

Started by yotadork83, June 07, 2006, 06:52:57 PM

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yotadork83

my buddy just bought this yestarday for $700.00 and within three hours of purchase we slamed some 35's under there with some trimming and some hammering. my buddy dont have a lot of cash so just trying to get some ideas on what we can do for cheap.
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79coyotefrg

sweet,  79 or 80??

he can get some cheap lift by getting a set of 2wd F150 springs  ,taking them apart and mixing the leaves in with his stock leaves,  just buy new tiebolts,   total cost for good flexy lift, $40
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jimbo74

hell, if its stock and fits 35s, and they dont rub because you trimmed, just leave it alone.....
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yotadork83

we have got two extra sets of rear springs and some lift shackels. not sure if we would need to make a new spring hanger to compensate for the shackles.
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CTENG in KS

If you mean for rears up front, then no, you need longer shackles just to fit them...you can use the original hangers.  For the rear, as a cheap-o, no weld solution, see if you can scrape up another set of lift shackles, and a set of rear leaves from a spring under 2wd toyota.  The spring unders will bolt right up with longer shackle, but cause they are spring under, they are a longer main leaf than 4wd stock.  Then use some of the leaves left over from the rears up front packs to add to 2wd pack for little extra lift/spring rate.
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IronClad

Quote from: CTENG in KS on June 07, 2006, 08:22:07 PM
If you mean for rears up front, then no, you need longer shackles just to fit them...you can use the original hangers.  For the rear, as a cheap-o, no weld solution, see if you can scrape up another set of lift shackles, and a set of rear leaves from a spring under 2wd toyota.  The spring unders will bolt right up with longer shackle, but cause they are spring under, they are a longer main leaf than 4wd stock.  Then use some of the leaves left over from the rears up front packs to add to 2wd pack for little extra lift/spring rate.

2wd/4wd are the same length    one just has slightly more arch than the other.
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Hyena

He will need to do something with his steering if he put the rears up front since his axle will be 2 inches farther forward.  great start to a wheeler though.

IronClad

just get a drop draglink and adjust it accordingly.. pretty easy.. aswell as mod the torque rod if he doesnt want highsteer yet.. we do that all the time on rigs
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Siringo

Those 2wd Toyo rear springs, what are they off? What year vehicle?

I'm after some flexy 2nd hand springs for the rear of my 84 Hilux, but I can't use springs off a Chevy coz we don't have Chevy's down here, but we do have lots of Toyotas.

IronClad

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yotadork83

one set off the rears is off of a 81 and the other is off of 83. wont i get poor pinion angels if i put the shackels on without a new hanger.
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yotadork83

the truck is a 81 and we found out that it has a headerr allready on it. as well as a air horn and working kcs.
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Duffil

Quote from: yotadork83 on June 07, 2006, 10:10:20 PM
the truck is a 81

With round headlights?? not unless somebody swapped the buckets...

:rivers: it's the same color my 79 was...

Ramrod

leave it exactly how it sits except some rocksliders and weld the diffs and it will be a badass ride

Duffil

Quote from: TEAM RAMROD on June 07, 2006, 10:55:56 PM
leave it exactly how it sits except some rocksliders and weld the diffs and it will be a badass ride
:beerwhack:  Hmm, maybe oughta pull the sway bar and torque rod so it won't flex like a brick? :yesnod:

jimbo74

Quote from: Duffil on June 07, 2006, 10:48:44 PM
With round headlights?? not unless somebody swapped the buckets...

:rivers: it's the same color my 79 was...


i htought it was 82 that the 7x6 headlights came out?
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Ramrod

yeah I guess pull the sway bar and replace the torque rod with an old shock and you should be able to wheel better than alot of people on here

IronClad

Quote from: TEAM RAMROD on June 07, 2006, 11:13:09 PM
yeah I guess pull the sway bar and replace the torque rod with an old shock and you should be able to wheel better than alot of people on here

ROFL aint that the truth
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yotadork83

82 is when they switched square lights
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jimbo74

so yotadork saying its an 81 leaves what duffil saying"With round headlights?? not unless somebody swapped the buckets..." as not correct.....


that means 81s did have round headlight
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yotadork83

i had another 81 with round lights.
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CTENG in KS

Quote from: IronClad on June 07, 2006, 08:39:26 PM
2wd/4wd are the same length    one just has slightly more arch than the other.
Hate to argue, but the frame mounts are the same distance apart, the 2wd main spring is actually longer eye to eye, like an inch and a half or so. 
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Duffil


All_Set

If you haven't been to 4crawlers page yet, he's got a *cheap* tech section for all sorts of things (along with more pricy stuff too)

http://4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/index.shtml#MODIFICATION$

Worth checking out. 


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CTENG in KS

Yup, Roger's site is good, plus the FAQ over at Pirate Toy section is excellent, you just have to be able to scrounge parts and do a little fab yourself.
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yotadork83

i have a rear axle out of a 90 coil sprung 4runner with a v6 and auto. i am putting 5.29's into it so we want to put the old ring and pinion gears in. will this work? and what gear ratio will it be.
83 toyota shortbed, 90 rear axle, 5.29's f/r, spools f/r, 22/20 hybrid w/propane, 37 mtrs. dual transfer cases. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=22712.0
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Gtown

cheap tricks i know.  go th your local ford dealer they throw away the stock shocks on the 250s and 350s they lift, they have 11.25 inches of travel.  ac compressor for on board air. toyotas w/4spds have 4.30s and some eairly 4runners have 4.56s and 4.88s if you can get 2 rear thirds.  supra thirds have and LSD that can be switched into stock pu thirds, or weld it. i took the wiring for my front lower marker lights, different lights rock lights in the front. stock rear springs in the front, i put 56 in chevy s10 springs in the rear using stock spring mounts and double shackles, very good flex, trim down the overload, 1 inch block.  ubolts off 14blts work for flip kits.
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CTENG in KS

Werd GTown...nice list!  A little time and effort hunting down the right parts, as mentioned above, can save you bunches of money...
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yotadork83

my buddie is trying to get his truck going for the third time two motors gone bad allready. i live in flagstaff az. and dont have to smog it so we want to remove all the emissions on it and still get it to run good never done this before on a stock carb and i know that people have got good results from them. so i just need a toyota guru to talk me through it.
83 toyota shortbed, 90 rear axle, 5.29's f/r, spools f/r, 22/20 hybrid w/propane, 37 mtrs. dual transfer cases. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=22712.0
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yotadork83

allright buddy finally got it going a gin after his third motor its back on the road. in less than a month his roomate ran into his passenger door and he also ran into a straight into a tree. pics of the updated truck asap.
83 toyota shortbed, 90 rear axle, 5.29's f/r, spools f/r, 22/20 hybrid w/propane, 37 mtrs. dual transfer cases. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=22712.0
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