Doc with aussie locker in mudhole

Started by Doc Holiday, May 31, 2006, 02:38:03 PM

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Doc Holiday

Today i just bought a aussie locker for the front of my truck, which is a 1980 toyota 4x4 pickup, i want to run 36 inch TSL Swampers on it, would you weld the rear or save the extra money and get another aussie locker for the rear, what would be the advantages of having a locker in the rear over a welded rear end.
Sorry i tried using the search engine to find related topics, but could not find anything!!!

IronClad

weld the rear.. any type of locker like the aussie is junk in the rear. you are putting a ton more stress on the rear than the front end. and you will shatter pins and round teeth off
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lilbuddy

Quote from: IronClad on May 31, 2006, 02:48:06 PM
weld the rear.. any type of locker like the aussie is junk in the rear. you are putting a ton more stress on the rear than the front end. and you will shatter pins and round teeth off

Like I did.
RIP Kyota.... you are the man

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AussieLocker

If you broke pins or had any rounded teeth in a properly installed Aussie Locker contact us for a warranty replacement. We have the only warranty that covers large tires, high horsepower and pin breakage or worn teeth in an Aussie Locker is incredibly rare and in virtually all cases the customer has determined that either the installation did not meet the specification or the installation was marginal on installation and had moved outside of the specification.

Doc Holiday

i got another question, i ordered a aussie locker for my front of my 80 yota pickup shortbox (  20r , 4 speed ) i wana install 5.29 gears with Bobby longfeild 4340 30 spline chromoly axels, and run 38 inch tsl swampers. is the aussie locker strong enough to run that combo without breaking.

AussieLocker

There has never been an Aussie Locker break and our customers have them on a wide variety of vehicles, tire sizes and motor horsepower.  We have the only warranty that does not have language limiting coverage if you have large tires or high horsepower. So install your locker properly, keep your tires aired the same and enjoy your new traction without worrying about breaking the locker.

IronClad

funny how someone on this very board rounded the teeth off on his aussie..  no offence but your locker does not belong in the rear of a vehicle.
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#7
We sent an PM to the individual who said that he had rounded off teeth on an automatic locker (Aussie was not specificed but implied) asking him to contact us to get a new locker.  If he did not want to reinstall a replacement locker he could sell it, but he has not responded to our contact as we would love to see the only Aussie Locker that has ever rounded off the teeth.  We appreciate that some feel a locker should only be installed in the front and we are sure they are firm in their positions for reasons they are committed to.  However we know that there are many, many thousands of Aussie Lockers out there in rear diffs and so far this site is the only place where someone has said they rounded off the teeth. So we are very interested in obtaining the locker for technical review and we will make our customer whole financially for this too, if he will just return the locker to us, or give us his order number, or even the date he ordered.  We will also report here what the independent consultant finds with regard to the locker.

IronClad

from what i understand he already contacted  aussie locker as per his buildup thread.
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Quote from: lilbuddy on May 31, 2006, 03:47:29 PM
Like I did.
this would truely be great  if aussielocker  stands behind there product as Marlin does,  :thumbs:
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lilbuddy

Quote from: AussieLocker on June 10, 2006, 01:51:32 PM
We sent an PM to the individual who said that he had rounded off teeth on an automatic locker (Aussie was not specificed but implied) asking him to contact us to get a new locker.  If he did not want to reinstall a replacement locker he could sell it, but he has not responded to our contact as we would love to see the only Aussie Locker that has ever rounded off the teeth.  We appreciate that some feel a locker should only be installed in the front and we are sure they are firm in their positions for reasons they are committed to.  However we know that there are many, many thousands of Aussie Lockers out there in rear diffs and so far this site is the only place where someone has said they rounded off the teeth. So we are very interested in obtaining the locker for technical review and we will make our customer whole financially for this too, if he will just return the locker to us, or give us his order number, or even the date he ordered.  We will also report here what the independent consultant finds with regard to the locker.

Yes I have contacted you guys and contacted Bill and sent the locker in so he could look at it to see if it was a bad one or not. Hes going to look at it and get a new one or just get parts to me that are not broken. I know it was installed correctly because it worked fine with no noises until one weekend then it was totally messed up and clicking and poping. I sent an email back about it. And like I have said, you guys still have the best customer service I have dealt with.
RIP Kyota.... you are the man

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AussieLocker

Quote from: lilbuddy on June 11, 2006, 07:29:43 PM
Yes I have contacted you guys and contacted Bill and sent the locker in so he could look at it to see if it was a bad one or not. Hes going to look at it and get a new one or just get parts to me that are not broken. I know it was installed correctly because it worked fine with no noises until one weekend then it was totally messed up and clicking and poping. I sent an email back about it. And like I have said, you guys still have the best customer service I have dealt with.

Locker received and today was shipped to consultant.  Hope to have the response by next Monday.

lilbuddy

Quote from: AussieLocker on June 12, 2006, 11:19:30 AM
Locker received and today was shipped to consultant.  Hope to have the response by next Monday.

And like I said, best customer service  :clap2:

OK so were :offtopic:
RIP Kyota.... you are the man

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Ramrod

damn thats some service.  i'm definitly not worried about my aussie

AussieLocker

To determine the cause of the problem "lilbuddy" had with his Aussie Locker we retained the services of an independent consultant to review the returned locker.  We selected John Zentmyer as our consultant and his credentials include the invention of the Lock Right locker, the formation of the original Lock Right company, and the inventor and patent holder of a number of other locker related products.  John is considered one of the leading experts in the locker field and he has seen thousands of locker related technical, manufacturing and design issues. Here is his report:

Hi Bill,

I just got your warranty unit and opened it up at the post office. I
could have put it right back in the box and returned it because the
problem was obvious, but I'll make a few detailed observations too.

Basically, the guy's pinion shaft was worn. It had grooves in it from
spinning spider gears that caused most of the driving force to be
applied at the inner end of the recess, where the angle of the side
isn't flat enough to keep it locked. Other angles more or less worked so
that it operated for a while, but over time the edges of the teeth
became rounded enough so that they started to slip. That's it in a
nutshell, and it was obvious at the post office.

As we had noted, this was the first Aussie Locker we had seen where the customer complained about rounded teeth and slipping. 

We hope that this information clears up an issues with regard to the reliability and performance of the Aussie Locker. As far as Chris (lillbuddy) is concerned we will be sending him a new locker at no cost as a customer service with the understanding that he purchases a new OEM cross shaft.  Chris, please drop us a note where you want your locker sent.

We appreciate this forum and if there are any questions on this issue we will do our best to answer them.

MR_DIY

that's very stand up'ish of you guys at aussie.  congrats on excellent customer service.  :thumbs:
I'm going yota JUST so I can buy from Marlin more.

*quote*-  goes to show that a ramp hero doesn't always have what it takes to be a trail hero as well.

lilbuddy

Quote from: AussieLocker on June 14, 2006, 06:22:39 PM
To determine the cause of the problem "lilbuddy" had with his Aussie Locker we retained the services of an independent consultant to review the returned locker.  We selected John Zentmyer as our consultant and his credentials include the invention of the Lock Right locker, the formation of the original Lock Right company, and the inventor and patent holder of a number of other locker related products.  John is considered one of the leading experts in the locker field and he has seen thousands of locker related technical, manufacturing and design issues. Here is his report:

Hi Bill,

I just got your warranty unit and opened it up at the post office. I
could have put it right back in the box and returned it because the
problem was obvious, but I'll make a few detailed observations too.

Basically, the guy's pinion shaft was worn. It had grooves in it from
spinning spider gears that caused most of the driving force to be
applied at the inner end of the recess, where the angle of the side
isn't flat enough to keep it locked. Other angles more or less worked so
that it operated for a while, but over time the edges of the teeth
became rounded enough so that they started to slip. That's it in a
nutshell, and it was obvious at the post office.

As we had noted, this was the first Aussie Locker we had seen where the customer complained about rounded teeth and slipping. 

We hope that this information clears up an issues with regard to the reliability and performance of the Aussie Locker. As far as Chris (lillbuddy) is concerned we will be sending him a new locker at no cost as a customer service with the understanding that he purchases a new OEM cross shaft.  Chris, please drop us a note where you want your locker sent.

We appreciate this forum and if there are any questions on this issue we will do our best to answer them.


Awesome. Looks like I need to go to Toyota and buy a new cross shaft.

And like I cant say enough, you guys have great customer service.
RIP Kyota.... you are the man

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Reynolds

Damn, with customer service like that, I really wish I could have one for my Tacoma  :bowdown:
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BoG-ToY

Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

JT_Law

Ok.
Just got my first locker put in and ya'll are making me regret not going aussie already.

Gotta question for the lockrite crowd if I may.

Got a deal on one, got it for 100 bucks new from a friend that won it at a rally, got the right one by filling out the form, but I am wondering about it as we installed it at a friends house that has done several.

On right hand turns I get very very faint clicks, on left hand turns it sounds like the diff is going to come out in pieces.

One time after a hard hiway run it made relatively low volume clicks on left and right turns in an even ration, then went back to Clanking and snapping on lefts and near no sound on rights.

This is on a 1990 XJ with 31's and a D35, auto trans btw.

Am I F'ed?

Much obliged.
Ron
'90 XJ 4.0 4.5RE 31-10.5 Yoko Geolander AT+II

So tell me, who whizzed in your gene pool?

IronClad

that what though type of lockers do.. they are noisy  and  clank and bang
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Ok, was just a bit worried since it seems to be only when turning left, or backing right.
Ron
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So tell me, who whizzed in your gene pool?

snowshoebrue

i bought a front axle with 5.29's and it is welded. the website had a link of a guy installing one and he dissasembled the spider gears to get them out.  so with mine welded can i still get them out.  or do i need to get a new open third and take it and have it set up?
http://gearinstalls.com/bill.htm
                                      thanks justin

IronClad

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snowshoebrue

well its already welded i just don't want to break too much stuff.  i have 27 spline longs right now and it not my daily driver.  just after reading a bunch of different post it seems like the opinion is that the aussie would be better than being welded. 

burnyota

there are lots of guys running welded rear diffs out there, along with welded front diffs also...from my experience they seem to hold up just fine if the prep work is good, and a little experience helps also as far as machine settings/etc. Your welds are only as good as the prep.  For the front diff. i would run a locker of some sort(aussie, lock-rite, etc) rather than welding it up because of turning the steering wheel(it can be a bear) and busting birfs.. :twocents:
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Doc Holiday

#29
Hey guys, here is my truck , its a 1980 Toyota 4x4 shortbox, in this video it has a 20r engine with a 4 speed tranny and 33 inch BFG all-terrains with stock gears and opend diffs. with about 3 inches of lift.
The mudwhole is deeper then looks, it was about knee deep mud.

this is with no lockers, open diffs
and yes i like to beat on my truck..........

here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8HYKYJtrX8&search=Toyota%204x4