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SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« on: May 25, 2006, 09:47:38 AM »
hey guys ive been thinkin about weldin my front spider gears 2 lock  :driving:the front up the truck is not my dd but i drive it more than alot.ive got a welded rear and dont c why i couldnt have the front welded up.whats ur oppin does any1 have this done? any help would be sweet thanks guys. :beerchug: :beer: :beerchug: :beer: :beerchug: :beer:
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2006, 09:58:35 AM »
OK, I just followed you over here.  I'm sighing up to this thread, so I can keep track of it.  :yupyup:  and see what people say.


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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2006, 09:59:57 AM »
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 10:01:27 AM »
Pros:  cheap, reliable, strong
cons: loss of steering on hard ground, very hard on other front end components, its just ghetto to do in the front.

my opinion is to not do it on your truck yet,  do it on something more purpose built for rockcrawling with a beefed up frontend and good highsteer and also lower gearing

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 10:02:19 AM »
It would depend on if you are running stock axles, stock birfs may take exception to welding the diff.
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 10:17:55 AM »
i wouldnt,  this will mean a short life of your stock birfields  if you have a bumper and winch  chances are you will keep both front tires on the ground 90% of the time
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 10:23:08 AM »
this truck has it done, and ive broke both birfields, and doesnt turn well on slickrock, but its cheap, and it goes anywhere

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 10:30:09 AM »
this truck has it done, and ive broke both birfields, and doesnt turn well on slickrock, but its cheap, and it goes anywhere
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2006, 10:50:55 AM »
its in moab utah, on hells revenge, the escalator, i only live 1.5 hrs away, so we go there alot

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2006, 12:25:17 PM »
well im all stock fromt end componets. but i have only the main piece of the stock bumper left on my truck and no winch yet but i got a push bar thats some weight i guess.
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2006, 01:00:54 PM »
Your going to hate it unless you also add some sort of hydrulic steering.. thats just my 2 cents :twocents:
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2006, 07:13:08 PM »
yea i am kinda leanin towards a locker
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2006, 07:59:06 PM »
ARB = steering
Lincoln locker = no steering

Heck, a detroit would even be better.
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2006, 06:44:24 AM »
With the tire size you're running, you're okay IMO. I ran and am still running a welded chunk in my front end. With 33" tires, it's not a problem. JUST DO NOT RUN IT ON THE STREET. It's scarey. If you're gonna drive it on the street in the snow, you can only lock one hub, otherwise you'll be all over the place. I have hydro-assist now, but I ran it with regular power-assist steering before for a year and I still managed to bend in my steering stops...

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2006, 03:25:22 PM »
I would say do it, then when you have money to buy a locker, put it in :_order:

I have both my diffs welded on my samurai and yeah it does suck for steering ( i dont even have power :ack:) but it makes the truck allot more capable.
If you hate it just pick up another 3rd for next to nothing and swap it in.

Oh and IMO locking one hub on the street is worse because it pulls bad to one side or the other
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2006, 04:03:23 PM »
welded fronts lock..  learn to drive and you wont have problems
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2006, 08:01:31 PM »
 :screwy: i hope you like spending most of your wheeling time changing your bierfs
i got freind that brakes bierfs with a lock right blew up two junk ass bobby longs those thing are trash  :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: he wouldn't even back his product with only three runs on them  :maddest: 
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2006, 10:43:03 PM »
:screwy: i hope you like spending most of your wheeling time changing your bierfs
i got freind that brakes bierfs with a lock right blew up two junk ass bobby longs those thing are trash  :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: he wouldn't even back his product with only three runs on them  :maddest: 

Don't be slaggin without telling all the facts. Bobby Long has helped many an individual, including backing up his products with warrenty. So who are you to be jumping in and making sweeping statements without telling the rest of the story?
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2006, 11:28:38 PM »
Don't be slaggin without telling all the facts. Bobby Long has helped many an individual, including backing up his products with warrenty. So who are you to be jumping in and making sweeping statements without telling the rest of the story?
no kidding! what is he running like 49's on them or something? :dunno:
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2006, 12:53:49 PM »
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2006, 01:10:02 PM »
no kidding! what is he running like 49's on them or something? :dunno:

Exactly, for all we know, the guy is running 44" boggers with a hopped up Chev SB 383 stroker w/ dual cases through Toyota axles and 5.71:1 gears, with the older 27-spline Longfields up front, and his steering stops turned in all the way. No wonder it only lasted 3 runs and Bobby Long didn't want to warrenty it.
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #21 on: Jun 01, 2006, 12:04:31 PM »
Hey man, dont know if your still looking for options with your front end.  I have a chevy 10 bolt front end and didnt want to weld it up due to strenth issues so I got a detroit easy locker,  they are only 250 bucks,  great for offroading, and still allow you to turn on the city streets and slick rock.  Very easy to install also, and are made for most axles. 
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #22 on: Jun 03, 2006, 01:21:20 PM »
yea i think thats what ill do
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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #23 on: Jun 03, 2006, 03:31:40 PM »
my LJ70 has lsd rear as std and welded front....im running 35s...to be honest im surprised how easy the steering is after having welded the front in my zook in the past and having to fit power steering to get the steering to turn at all.
however....i have trashed 2 birfs.....both short side but i do wheel it hard.
the LJ is an axle donor for my lwb sammy and is being parted after next weekends event.im hoping with the lighter weight of the sammy the birfs will hold up a bit better...if not im thinking of importing some longfields.   

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #24 on: Jun 03, 2006, 09:11:32 PM »
well here's my 2 cents................weld it up man. If your anything like me you wanna learn first hand what its like. Then you'll know weather or not its up your ally. I think it works great personaly. Its cheap,easy to do and dime a dozen. BUT if you have the "bling" go for the ARB.

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #25 on: Jun 05, 2006, 03:19:09 PM »
well i dont need bling um im still on the edge over this
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« Reply #26 on: Jun 05, 2006, 03:38:47 PM »
dont be such a  :stopit: and weld it already  :therethere:

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« Reply #27 on: Jun 05, 2006, 03:50:53 PM »
just freakin weld it.
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« Reply #28 on: Jun 05, 2006, 05:51:15 PM »
Those Clad in Iron won't lead astray.

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Re: SHOULD I WELD MY FRONT AXLE TO LOCK IT UP?
« Reply #29 on: Jun 05, 2006, 08:14:42 PM »
ok ok ill do it :burnout: but when i break a birff one of u guys got a spare for me i wheel preaty hard so i will break one :beerchug: but oh well thats what this forum is for
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