Sway bars?

[RustyToy]

For those dd out there what are you doing for sway bars with crossover?   

[BigMike]

I have always wanted to Sway bar my truck, front and back, but I just have not done it yet.. 1st gen Yota with a 4" lift and HySteer.

I have gotten used to the body roll despite formally dd a highly modified 1st gen Toyota MR2, of course, with huge sway bars f/r.

The only negative thing I can think about is that you will always have to disconnect them when you go wheeling, and if you forget to do that, you might break the mounts with prolonged wheeling.

Let me know what you find out about this. I am definitely not interested in the Currie Anti-Rock kit, and I bet that all we need to do is run down to the wrecking yard with a tape measure and hit up some old American boat cars for some straight and thick (20mm+) sway bars that are just a bit wider than our frames, and wa-la. Build some lower mounts and disconnect rods and you've got a cheap sway bar setup that outta work great!

[prang11]

You dont want a sway bar.....










Do you???   

[BigMike]

To reduce brake steer, increase braking, reduce "wondering" under heavy braking, and give me much better steering responce, heck yes I do.

I bet they could save my life someday

The sad part about my truck is that it is daily driven way more than it is wheeled. I have only wheeled it once this year so far

[prang11]

I took mine off and it does make a big handling difference.  But the truck feels so much more livly with it off.  Less control somehow feels like more. 

That dosnt make much sense... Damn budwiesers

[BigMike]

That is interesting though... 

[RustyToy]

I spend more time one the freeway then intown or even wheelin, so really seams like a problem. technically with out a sway bar you could even flip on a fast lane change if everyone was slamming on their brakes? I know I'm just being paranoid but going from 65 - 0 in a flash while keeping the dog in the passenger seat AND trying to change lanes so that crazy hair lady that is putting makeup on behind me doesn't run into the back of me is hard enough WITH a sway bar.  ( wow that was a long sentence )   It really would be a pain to disconect them all the time, but not too bad.

mabey i'll see if i can rip one off a h3 rear and make it work up front or somthing.

[BigMike]

So has anyone (who has a suspension lift) really even tried doing an all-out brake stand while turning??

Fortunately I have never had to do that, and I don't think I would want to either

[86turboyota]

im also very interested in this... keep us posted on what you find out..

[1Bad4Runner]

I have a swaybar on my 89 Runner with hysteer. It works great, but I have it rigged up kinda weird. I used the origonal one off of a 82 pick-up, even though I think it should be thicker because I am running the V6... It makes a huge handling difference.
I don't have quick dissconnects because I find that it still flexes excellent with the sway bar.

Let me know if you want any pictures or any more info on it!

[82toyotakid]

i drive mine way more than i wheel it to with no sway bar i think

[CTENG in KS]

I have a swaybar on my 89 Runner with hysteer. It works great, but I have it rigged up kinda weird. I used the origonal one off of a 82 pick-up, even though I think it should be thicker because I am running the V6... It makes a huge handling difference.
I don't have quick dissconnects because I find that it still flexes excellent with the sway bar.

Let me know if you want any pictures or any more info on it!

We must have the picts...the smaller bar is prob a great compromise...just enough stability for the road but not enough to significantly hamper suspension travel...SHOW US!

[robinhood4x4]

So has anyone (who has a suspension lift) really even tried doing an all-out brake stand while turning??

I'll give you a dollar if you do this  .  It's all in the name of science.

There was a recent thread about sway bars on pirate toyota section.  I forget who it was, but maybe wilson or erikB did it with a tacoma bar?

[82toyotakid]

sway bar is a bar that goes in front of ur front end right not to sound stupid?

[BLACKDOG]

So has anyone (who has a suspension lift) really even tried doing an all-out brake stand while turning??

Fortunately I have never had to do that, and I don't think I would want to either

do you mean turning, as in changing lanes to avoid hitting someone??  then yes, I did   don't really want to do it again   I was inthe fast lane, and had to slam on my breaks and swerve onto the shoulder to avoid hitting this lady that decided it'd be a smart thing to pull out of near stopepd traffic into the lane in front of me.  I was only going 45ish, but it still scared the outta me.  there was some serious body roll, threatend to pull the wheels right out from under me

[84_yota_4wd]

yea ive got an 84 with 6" of lift and i dont run 1 but then again on those sharp on ramps to the freeway i can only do like 20 miles an hour than stand on it once it straitons out. ifc u want one though u can take on off of a 1st gen. than instead of gettin the dropp kit just get some grade 8 all thread and make longer bottom mounts. and get some round tube thet just barly fits over it and make a sleve i used 1/2 all thread on mine but once i got to 6" inch of lift i just took it off. but with only 4" it was nice to have it. the other good ting is if u wheel with it on and it gets too much pressure u dont rip the mounts moff the frame u just bend the all thred. and the make another one big whop. i had to drill out the stock bussings and washers but i made it in like 3 hr at the most good luck.

[1Bad4Runner]

You can't put the sway bar in front of the axle I don't think because the hysteer is in the way... I had to put mine behind the axle. I will get some pics.

[1Bad4Runner]

Not the best pictures, but you get the idea. I am running a first gen sway bar upside down and behind my axle. The reason I am running it upside down is because the driveshaft hits it when it is the right way.
On my drivers side I think the sway bar is hitting the frame, but I can't hear it or feel it so it can't be that bad. What really should be done is put a 1/2" spacer between the frame and the swaybar bushing brackets.

Let me know if this is of any help, I'm not sure if the first gen frame has the same mounting spots as the IFS frame either.

[RustyToy]

ha! thats funny. thats what i just did...  right on.

[CTENG in KS]

Sweetness...Anybody know of any junkyards in the wichita area that I could search through???  I need a swaybar...

[yotakid88]

if you want to be able to disconnect the sway bar you could get the front range disconnect system.

[RustyToy]

Wing Nuts ! 

[1Bad4Runner]

Lol, wing nuts is a good idea. I find mine just flexes in the back a little better now!

[79coyotefrg]

To reduce brake steer, increase braking, reduce "wondering" under heavy braking, and give me much better steering responce, heck yes I do.

I bet they could save my life someday

The sad part about my truck is that it is daily driven way more than it is wheeled. I have only wheeled it once this year so far

Mike,  what you need is a hydraulic sway control system

2 remote res  shocks,  using a braided  hydraulic line between the 2 shocks,  you would have to get all the air out of the system so only fluid  then have a valve in your cab,  when offroad  the valve would be open,  when on the highway,  close the valve  so the fluid couldnt go side to side

[82toyotakid]

i dont want to sound stupid but what is a sway bar im not the most intelligent about my rig yet

[79coyotefrg]

its a solid bar bent  to come from the axle near the shock up to the frame under the radiator  across under the fram and connects to the axle on the other side to prevent flex