p/u project start

[CSAKing]

Hey yall im  trying to get an 79-88 yota pickup to start a project with. and ive got a few questions for you guys. first what are some cheap lift options that i could do. a friend of mine sugested rear springs up front and 63" chevies in the rear. i was wondering what yall thought of this and if u have any other ideas please tell me. also i plan on doing a sas. im working on getting a D60 front/14-bolt rear. if yall have anything to say about the sas like info and tips that would be great. thanks for the help.

[79coyotefrg]

unless your gonna run a v8  i would stay toyota,  they will support 35-37 inch tires

but yea  rears up front and chevies in the rear for the most flex

oh yea  to the forum

[CSAKing]

i thought that i would have trouble running 35's with toyotas?? but i guess yall know what yall are talking about. what kind of gears/lockers do u think i should run. i was thinking 529s but i dont know.

[kneedownnate]

You're correct, for the best all around gearing with 35s I'd stick to 5.29s.  And I would also run rears up front, but don't wanna run rock anchor 63" chevies in rear, I would go f150 rears, which are 54".

[6.72:1]

I would agree with you on the 529s. They are a great selection. They sure toted my 40s down the road great!


By the way, are you in a Confederate stronghold?

[CSAKing]

if i put f150 springs would i still have even lift like i would with the chevies??? also about the flat bed i was wondering what kind of tubing i should use, also if anyone has any pics of there flatbed or a cage or one that they have seen please post it so i could start getting ideas

[CSAKing]

hey yall i got a question. heres my problem i want to run 36's or 37's. i know the yota axels can handle it but i want to swap so i can have fullwidths. but if i get something like a d60 or a 14 bolt i dont know if the 4 banger has enough power to run it??? what do yall think i should do

[MiniSimp]

With dual cases and gears it'll pull it just fine.

Cheapest lift is:
Rears up front or Waggy's up front
Chevy's or F150's in the rear
Buy Marlin High Steer/U-Bolt Flip Kit(unless you go full width)/MC-07 adapter
Build your own dual transfer cases/front driveshaft/hangers/shackles/sliders/bumpers

That'll put you out about $1000.00 and you're ready to crawl.

[IronClad]

my buddy hans ran 40s on  a 14bolt/d44  with 4.56s  and a 22re and  it was able to turn them no problem. the truck was crazy fast for only having 4.56 gears and had no problem pullin hills..  ( he had a dual ultimate so offroad didnt suffer)  runem~!

[79coyotefrg]

in 4Wheeloffroad magazine last years Ulitimate adventure,  there toyota was running full width axles with 7.17 ring and pinion gears   they said the 22RE ran fine with that gear ratio and marlin duals


old clampy  i think is what they called it

[whiteman]

Just keep reading other peoples build ups.  Search and you shall find lots of info regarding SAS, Springs, Drivline tech..etc..
My self and many others are doing cheap build ups as well, and use custom made spring packs.   


And by the way, dont do like me and get a 2nd Gen. when you actually want a 1st Gen, because they are good looking.

[79coyotefrg]

they are , arent they

[CSAKing]

thanks yall for all the info do any of yall have any good ideas for a bitchin flatbed/cage. if yall have pics of yours or one that you have seen please post it so i can get some ideas

[79coyotefrg]

I would agree with you on the 529s. They are a great selection. They sure toted my 40s down the road great!


By the way, are you in a Confederate stronghold?

me thinks he be in North caroline  there old buddy

[whiteman]

I have always liked the all pro design flat bed, but i would definatley throw my own twist into it. 

[79coyotefrg]

if yall  go flat bed put your beds in the for sale section

[whiteman]

if yall go flat bed put your beds in the for sale section

   I need a short bed.

[6.72:1]

me thinks he be in North caroline there old buddy

At least NC joined right? lol!

North Carolina
Secession ordinance: May 20, 1861
Admitted C.S.A.: May 16, 1861
U.S. Congress representation restored: July 4, 1868
Local rule reestablished: February 2, 1871

[CSAKing]

got another question how hard would it be to move the front axle foward?? casue i would like to somehow get it so the tires stick out farther than the front grill. is this possible or is it just wishful thinking?? if it is could yall give me some ideas

[whiteman]

You can get your axle moved forward about two inches if you run your rear springs up front, if you make a new hanger for the springs you could make it two move it 3-4 but 4 or more may look funny.

The only way to get a 90* or better aproch angle is to run coils and a link type suspension.

[CSAKing]

do yall think i should go coils in the front and springs in the rear?? would that be better. what do yall think

[yotaboy79]

if you have the time money and skill you might as well link the rear wile you link the front with rears up front you will have a pritty good aproach angle if you stick with your stock hangers espetialy if you run a 36 in or taller tire heres a pic from the side so you can get an idea of the aproach angle im running rears up front with some waggy leafs mixed in i can get up a 90 degree face thats not to tall if i hit it hard enouph  

[CSAKing]

i was thinking about shortening the frame to right behind the rear spring hangers what do yall think about that???

[whiteman]

So you are going to bob the bed and the frame? ...............









Just j/k,  People do it all the time, in fact I am bobbing my bed and the rear of my frame as well.  Type in a search for Bobbed Bed, you will get a lot of results with some good tech.

[CSAKing]

so what would i use to replace the part i cut out just some box steel tubing and just weld it back in between the places i cut. if i did cut the frame wouldnt i have to tack weld a brace so the frame wouldnt shift apart or something??

[whiteman]

I dont think we are thinking the same thing we are thinking .

Are you talking about doing something like this - http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/project_bobbed/

[CSAKing]

yea i was wondering if i would have to put anything back inbetween where i cut the framerails but i guess not.. by the way thanks for all the help whiteman

[Hyena]

The only problem is if his engione is in good shape.  I have heard of good running 22re's that will pull dana 60's and 40's just fine.  But then if the engine isn't running great it might be able to pull it at all. 

[CSAKing]

well i think ive decided to not swap for the d60 and 14-bolt and just stick with the yota axles and just regear them and run 36's

[6.72:1]

Don't think. Do it! Go Toyota!