Winches! What brand is better

Oregon Crawler · December 04, 2005, 07:20:17 AM

Hey got a ? I have been looking at winches Warn,Ramsey,T-max,Mile Marker. So far the best price I have found is a Milemarker 9500 for 450$. I was wondering if anyone has used any Electric mile Marker. Are they cheap because there crap or cheap to sell more or what. What Electric winch is the best for a toyota. And if someone uses Electric mile marker winches let me know if U have any problems with it. I looking for something good but cheap.

skid · December 04, 2005, 09:35:15 AM

I recommend spending some money and getting a Warn. Not a good place to "cheap" out. I believe a Warn M8000 can be bought for around $600 if money's and issue. Carry a snatch block and thats 16000 pound.

notajeep · December 04, 2005, 09:50:35 AM

I bought the Harbor freight mile marker.

for $279. 8k. At the time money was a huge issue. But... so far it has never let me down. Yes, it is slower than cold tar in january in the north pole taking the scenic route on a bus full of nuns with a flat tire. But it works when I need it to. I just put a warn sticker on the front of it and call it good. In the future I will get a warn xp and move this one to the back of my rig.

kneedownnate · December 04, 2005, 10:07:51 AM

So the elcheapo harbor freight 8k is a milemarker huh??!! And how slow is it?

CTENG in KS · December 04, 2005, 10:57:46 AM

Quote from: notajeep on December 04, 2005, 09:50:35 AM
I bought the Harbor freight mile marker. for $279. 8k. At the time money was a huge issue. But... so far it has never let me down. Yes, it is slower than cold tar in january in the north pole taking the scenic route on a bus full of nuns with a flat tire. But it works when I need it to. I just put a warn sticker on the front of it and call it good. In the future I will get a warn xp and move this one to the back of my rig.

That is going to the imagery hall of fame.

As for winches... Warn, then prob ramsey and superwinch. The T-Maxx winches are supposed to be real good too.

notajeep · December 04, 2005, 12:28:11 PM

Quote from: kneedownnate on December 04, 2005, 10:07:51 AM
So the elcheapo harbor freight 8k is a milemarker huh??!! And how slow is it?

Slow......

mudmaster · December 04, 2005, 12:31:20 PM

I've got a 12000 lb Mile Marker and it's slooooooow. But it does pull good.

Stinky · December 04, 2005, 02:59:09 PM

buy the mile marker se9500 my friend has it on his HEEP and for 500 bucks u cant beat it..pretty fast line speed and its a planetry drive..so its built well

toybuilt · December 04, 2005, 06:02:30 PM

I've always been a fan of Warn so thats were all be going for a winch when the time comes

locktup · December 04, 2005, 09:03:32 PM

I have run the Mile Marker 9500 for three years. I dont know if it even works, I have never needed it. I'm to much of a sissy to wheel my junk. Casey105 also runs the Mile Marker 9500.

Oregon Crawler · December 05, 2005, 02:16:54 PM

Well I have been looking around at mileMarker and warn on specs. Warn are high amp and between mile marker and warn the difference between the Warn XD9000 and the SE9500. I know there's a difference in size but every fact is at the same work load. On the same line pull 2000-2000, 4000-4000 and so on. There was only 1 Ft per min. difference, with the warn pulled faster, but onle by 1ft. but in how many amps the warn burns compare to mile marker is a huge differents in amps. and the price difference warn XD9000 880$ and the mile SE9500 450$ From NTW

numbers in amps
LBS. Warn XD9000 Mile SE9500
0 70 90
2000 180 160
4000 255 180
6000 330 250
8000 415 350

whiteman · December 05, 2005, 03:50:05 PM

I would go with the Warn M8274, good winch.

CTENG in KS · December 05, 2005, 09:35:30 PM

Here is some winch info courtesy of Offroad.com

http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/faqs/winches.html

|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| Ramsey | Warn |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| | |
|Model: Ramsey REP8000 | Model: Warn M8000 |
|Gear reduction ratio: 210:1 | Gear reduction ratio: 216:1 |
|Motor: 1.8 hp, permanent magnet | Motor: 2.1 hp, series wound |
|Gear train: 3 stage planetary | Gear train: 3 stage planetary |
|Weight: 70 lb. | Weight: 74 lb. |
| | |
|Line Pull Line Speed Current | Line Pull Line Speed Current |
| (lb) (ft/min) (amps) | (lb) (ft/min) (amps) |
|================================ | ================================|
| 0 13 20 | 0 29 70 |
| 2000 11 90 | 2000 15 180 |
| 4000 9 150 | 4000 10 263 |
| 6000 6 215 | 6000 7 342 |
| 8000 4.5 280 | 8000 3 423 |
| | |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| | |
|Model: Ramsey RE8000 | Model: Warn M8274 |
|Gear reduction ratio: 360:1 | Gear reduction ratio: 134:1 |
|Motor: 1.9 hp, series wound | Motor: 2.5 hp, series wound |
|Gear train: worm gear | Gear train: spur gear |
|Weight: 115 lb. | Weight: 110 lb. |
| | |
|Line Pull Line Speed Current | Line Pull Line Speed Current |
| (lb) (ft/min) (amps) | (lb) (ft/min) (amps) |
|================================ | ================================|
| 0 15 73 | 0 52 68 |
| 2000 7.5 155 | 2000 19 172 |
| 4000 5.5 215 | 4000 12 268 |
| 6000 4 285 | 6000 8 360 |
| 8000 3 345 | 8000 3 435 |
| | |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| | |
|Model: Ramsey Pro 9000 | Model: Warn XD9000 |
|Gear reduction ratio: 138:1 | Gear reduction ratio: 261:1 |
|Motor: 1.9 hp, series wound | Motor: 2.1 hp, series wound |
|Gear train: 3 stage planetary | Gear train: 3 stage planetary |
|Weight: 85 lb. | Weight: 78 lb. |
| | |
|Line Pull Line Speed Current | Line Pull Line Speed Current |
| (lb) (ft/min) (amps) | (lb) (ft/min) (amps) |
|================================ | ================================|
| 0 23 70 | 0 18 70 |
| 2000 12 165 | 2000 14 165 |
| 4000 8 240 | 4000 10 230 |
| 6000 5 305 | 6000 8 290 |
| | 8000 6 360 |
| 9000 2 400 | 9000 5 400 |
| | |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| | |
|Model: Ramsey RE10000 | Model: Warn M10000 |
|Gear reduction ratio: 470:1 | Gear reduction ratio: 164:1 |
|Motor: 1.9 hp, series wound | Motor: 2.5 hp, series wound |
|Gear train: worm gear | Gear train: 3 stage planetary |
|Weight: 130 lb. | Weight: 125 lb. |
| | |
|Line Pull Line Speed Current | Line Pull Line Speed Current |
| (lb) (ft/min) (amps) | (lb) (ft/min) (amps) |
|================================ | ================================|
| 0 14 70 | 0 35 80 |
| 2000 7 110 | 2000 14 163 |
| 4000 5 180 | 4000 9 245 |
| 6000 4 230 | 6000 6 322 |
| 8000 3.5 280 | 8000 4 400 |
|10000 2.5 330 | 10000 3 475 |
| | |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
| | |
|Model: Ramsey RE12000 | Model: Warn M12000 |
|Gear reduction ratio: 470:1 | Gear reduction ratio: 261:1 |
|Motor: 1.9 hp, series wound | Motor: 2.5 hp, series wound |
|Gear train: worm gear | Gear train: 3 stage planetary |
|Weight: 135 lb. | Weight: 136 lb. |
| | |
|Line Pull Line Speed Current | Line Pull Line Speed Current |
| (lb) (ft/min) (amps) | (lb) (ft/min) (amps) |
|================================ | ================================|
| 0 14 70 | 0 25 80 |
| 2000 7 110 | 2000 14 141 |
| 4000 5 180 | 4000 8 200 |
| 6000 4 230 | 6000 7 252 |
| 8000 3.5 280 | 8000 5 302 |
|10000 2.5 330 | 10000 4 353 |
|12000 2 390 | 12000 3 400 |
| | |
|-------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|

--------HYDRAULIC MOTOR---------------|----------ELECTRIC WINCHES---------

Quiet Motor runs at 85 rpm Louder, runs at 1750 rpm
Draws 2 amps under full load Draws up to 475 amps
Uses existing power steering pump Requires 2 heavy duty batteries
Runs cool continuously Overheats fast and kicks out
Light-weight, only 65 pounds Heavier, approx. 160-175 pounds

Custom Hose fitting for each application,
replaces stock hose (4500 lb minimum burst
strength) with AeroQuip Steel Braided
Hose (minimum 12,500 lb burst strength)

Heavy duty fail safe hydraulic valve,
spring loaded to return to power steering
mode and designed for continuous use.

Power steering will work while operating winch.

Winch is completely sealed for underwater use.

Hydraulic Motor with 3000 hour life expectancy.

12 ft. remote control.

Reversible mounting.

Yota4life · December 06, 2005, 06:52:05 PM

Are there any downsides to the Warn M8000? Any major problems with this winch? It has a pretty good price for me so i am thinking this is the winch i will buy in the near future.

Skinny_Pedal · December 07, 2005, 08:02:41 PM

i have a ramsey rep 8000. its a great winch. had to use it 5 times to actually get me out of a jam. wouldnt hesitate to purchase another ramsey product in the future. but honestly i feel warn and ramsey are the top in the winch world and whichever you choose you can feel safe it will get the job done

Rockcrawlintoy · December 07, 2005, 08:54:28 PM

the milemarker winches are slow. i used one with a buddy. the remote was cheazy and overall i got a bad impression. esp when we had to pull the winch cable 5 times

DRew

POWERSTROKEN · December 07, 2005, 09:27:18 PM

I have 5 Warns and I have never had any issue of any kind. They are there when I need them and are dependable. I would hate to find out about a bargain winch at a time of need and no one else is around. Just a thought. Jim

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