Author Topic: 84 4Runner Buildup - Last minute summer mods (Read 307702 times)

LilChief87 · « **Reply #780 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 12:49:51 AM »

OMG sexy cant wait to see it with the iroks back on it what color is that exactly?

Volcom · « **Reply #781 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 07:17:29 AM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Jun 28, 2011, 09:21:36 PM

So how is your heim joint steering setup holding up? Im doing the same setup but I was planning on running heims on the drag link with a flat pitman arm.... seems like the tie rod ends on my drag link wear out faster than on the tie rod since they have to move up and down a lot more....

Heim steering is holding up great. Granted, I don't put very many miles on it. Pretty much all off-road. I'm running TRE's on both sides of my drag link. My brother had some weird steering issues on his YJ when he ran a heim on the pitman arm side of the drag link. I never tried it, just stuck with a TRE's on the drag link. One of these days I'll rebuild a drag link using a heim on the steering side of the link.

Volcom · « **Reply #782 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 07:19:03 AM »

Quote from: LilChief87 on Jul 18, 2011, 12:49:51 AM

OMG sexy cant wait to see it with the iroks back on it what color is that exactly?

Kubota orange tractor paint from my local paint store. Big tires will be back on soon.

LilChief87 · « **Reply #783 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 06:24:26 PM »

i like that color alot what other plans ya got

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #784 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 06:49:49 PM »

x2 the color hides alot

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #785 on:** Jul 19, 2011, 05:47:12 PM »

looks damn good! $Beer Chug\'n$

THK Matt · « **Reply #786 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 03:16:11 PM »

Tractor paint?! that looks BA!

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #787 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 06:24:03 PM »

kubota also makes RTV's with little 3 banger diesels.....

blackdiamond · « **Reply #788 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 09:24:04 PM »

That looks nice. I'd get some spray undercoat and hit the rear wheel wells to cover the overspray.

I'm wondering if a flat paint job wouldn't have showed the dents as much, maybe camo..

Jaysen · « **Reply #789 on:** Jul 22, 2011, 12:51:40 AM »

I like the way the dent show up!!!look kool!!

wakkjobb · « **Reply #790 on:** Jul 26, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »

The new paint looks great and I'm still in love with the tailgate mod...

See you in Carnage this Saturday!

Volcom · « **Reply #791 on:** Aug 22, 2011, 08:45:21 AM »

Holy Cross

BV Carnage

Woke up Sunday morning of the Jambo to this

Thanks Toytank! My kids loved it when I bought it home that way.

My trail fix halfway up Carnage, right before the V-notch. Glad it happened before the notch than after

Gotta love bailing wire & duct tape. These TG springs had 5 years of wheeling on them. I don't expect leaf springs to last any longer than that for the type of wheeling that I put them though.

I picked up a set of 2wd rear springs from the junkyard. $35 out the door. The plan is to take the top 2 leafs from the rears and pair them with the bottom 4 leafs from the TG springs. Just comparing the rears to the TG's, the centering pin is about an inch forward. I will redrill the front axle spring perches 1 inch forward to move the axle back 1 inch. My steering is dead on and I don't want to mess with it by moving the axle forward another inch.

Volcom · « **Reply #792 on:** Sep 02, 2011, 09:42:56 AM »

Working on getting the 4Runner back up & running. I should have it running this weekend.

Removed the front leaf spring. Ready for some links?

The broken, trail fixed leaf spring. I got 5 years of some tough wheeling out of this Trail Gear spring. Can't complain that it broke.

Broke right behind the U-bolt plate.

Showing off my new 3 ton jack. I needed a bigger jack to lift the Dodge. It's overkill for the 4Runner.

Both springs now out.

TG 4" spring on top, stock 2wd rear spring on bottom. Looks like the rear spring is going to move the axle 1" forward.

To get the axle back in the same spot as before, I drilled the spring perch 1" foward. My steering is dialed with the drag link & tie rod perfectly parellel. Same with the hydro ram.

I plan on using the stock rears as the top two springs and the bottom 4 TG springs. This is how they are going to line up.

The stock rears have 40mm front bushing and 30mm rear bushings, same as the TG springs. I plan on using new TG bushings in the rears up front. I did find out that the bushings with the springs were too thick to fit in the front spring hanger. I had to use the lathe to remove about 1/8" from each bushing.

I also had to extend the center slot in the U-bolt place for the redrilled spring perch. I used my uncle's Bridgeport milling machine.

Easy to cut slots with a milling machine.

I also wanted to increase the center pin size. The stock pin is tiny. Upgraded to a grade 8 allen head bolt to help with the installation of the center pin.

Mounted the main leaf to try and get some idea of the shackle angle at full compression. It also allowed me to find out how I'm going to mount my bumpstops.

I'm not happy with the shackle angle. At full compression, it should be laying back more. I will cut the shackles down (currently 5" hole to hole) to get the shackle angle steeper. It will also lower the 4Runner (super happy about that).

Passenger side shot. I still need to cut off the current bumpstop.

I've got alot of work to do this weekend.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #793 on:** Sep 02, 2011, 08:08:51 PM »

lookin good so far!

TacoRunner · « **Reply #794 on:** Sep 06, 2011, 03:38:40 PM »

Shameless plug

broken springs = time for a 3link and coilovers.

OK, send the hate mail.

Jrod · « **Reply #795 on:** Sep 06, 2011, 06:58:31 PM »

That will be nice having a tiny bit better approach up front.
I know I'm kinda late but it looks like you had fun in Moab!

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #796 on:** Sep 06, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »

I have the same springs on mine.. but I am very easy on them glad to hear they lasted that long!

Volcom · « **Reply #797 on:** Sep 13, 2011, 07:39:49 AM »

Shackle angle at flat spring after cutting them down from 5" eye to eye to 3.75" eye to eye. I thought the angle would have been steeper after cutting them down but there's no going back now.

4" Trail Gear on top, RUF/TG mixed pack on bottom. The RearUpFront also ended up being about 3/8" shorter than the 4" TG's.

I was surprised to see them end the same height. (TG right, RUF left).

I also made spring clamps for both the front & the rear of the springs. I used 1.25" 3/16" strap. I countersunk some allen head bolts into the 3rd spring. Rears up front are known to separate the main from the 2nd pack while wheeling. I knew I needed some kind of spring clamps.

Driver's side newly resigned bumpstop bracket. Everything is from 1/4" plate because the 22RE is a powerhouse :finga:

Passenger side bumpstop.

Ended up cutting down the front spring clamps after installing the springs. The clamps looked like they might interfere with the spring hanger. I still might drill some holes and run a bolt though them.

Rear shackle angle with full weight on the rig. I wish they were layed back more but without alot of work (moving front spring hanger back or redoing the frame sleeves) it will stay just like this. The rear spring clamps have 2.5" sleeves and bolts in them.

Only 1.25" of air gap between the bump & the pad. The bump also has 3 5/8" air gaps. I rounded down to 1.5" when I setup the bumpstop. They compress great while on the trail. My tires barely rub the battery box, front bumper, and firewall (tubbed back to the body mount) at full compression.

Closeup of the bracket just in case anybody else wants to copy the design.

Hard to tell in the pictures but the 4Runner sits nose down now. I think I lost 1-1.25" of height in the front after swapping springs $Beer Chug\'n$ Frame height on 39.5" tires at 8psi is 26".

87hillbillyoter · « **Reply #798 on:** Sep 13, 2011, 09:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Volcom on Sep 13, 2011, 07:39:49 AM

Hard to tell in the pictures but the 4Runner sits nose down now. I think I lost 1-1.25" of height in the front after swapping springs $Beer Chug\'n$ Frame height on 39.5" tires at 8psi is 26".

lookin real good man. i just realized this, your rig looks just like Scottys sons 4runner. badass

Volcom · « **Reply #799 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 12:35:09 PM »

New front springs held up great this past weekend at BV Carnage!

Boulder field before the V-Notch. You can see the mud at the bottom of the ledges at the bottom of the picture. No bees this late in the season, that's always a bonus

Trying a couple different lines on the ledges.

Starting up the notch.

My new body & slider work on the 4Runner

I hit driver's side slider hard at some point on the trail. Slider flexed up and dented the body and bent the slider so the door doesn't quite clear the slider. You can see the slider bent way up in that last pic.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #800 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 04:56:14 PM »

Lookin good! You need some more gussetting on those sliders!! $Beer Chug\'n$

John Doe · « **Reply #801 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 06:41:26 PM »

Thanks for figuring out my bump stop mounting issue $Beer Chug\'n$

Rig looks great!

Volcom · « **Reply #802 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 09:39:45 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Nov 22, 2011, 04:56:14 PM

Lookin good! You need some more gussetting on those sliders!! $Beer Chug\'n$

I scab plated the frame with 3/16" flat and welded triangle gussets on the top of each slider leg. It's been enough but my sliders have taken a beating the last 5 years. Might be time to make something else heavy duty.

Quote from: John Doe on Nov 22, 2011, 06:41:26 PM

Thanks for figuring out my bump stop mounting issue $Beer Chug\'n$

Rig looks great!

No problem! Copy away. My bumpstops work out killer! I tested them out on a fairly bumpy dirt road at 40 mph. The front was completely stable, the rear was unloading like crazy.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #803 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 09:50:18 PM »

awesome runner, i am definitely subscribing to this thread

Zs Confederate Toy · « **Reply #804 on:** Nov 22, 2011, 11:29:53 PM »

You say no bees this late eh? I had a bee drinkin out of the rim of my Sparks up at the exit the weekend before. Suprised the hell out of me haha. Lookin good out there on the rocks!