Can you lock up 38s?

Started by robinhood4x4, August 16, 2005, 10:06:16 PM

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robinhood4x4

My friend doesn't believe me when I say people can lock up 38s with toyota brakes (upgraded of course). 

Whether you have toyota or some other brake combination, can you lock up your big tires (or at least stop really quick)? 
Quote from: cruzilaWell, if the ideal of excluding the lesser equipped (stock or otherwise) is accepted... there is no fundamental difference between that and a Sierra CLub ideal of exclusion. If we cannot embrace the 4wheel users as a whole. We are not fighting for access. I cannot be that shortsighted

yotaboy79

ive got stock breaks and 35's some times i can lock them up some times i cant and somtimes when going doun long windy hills they will heat up soo much that ill almost loose my brakes compleatly but thats using them pritty hard

over_rev

I can lock up my 37's Whenever I Whant 8)  Ifs calipers up front, cadilac eldorado calipers in rear,V6 MC.
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WHITE_TRASH

1" master cyl, stainless lines to keep the line pressure up, V6 calipers, vented rotors, and no proportioning valve in the rear and i can lock up all 4 at will.  Im fat so I have lots of leg strength. :greengrin:
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

Rebeltilldeath3

If it's wet, I can lock mine up and slide for about 20 feet.

Actually, when it's wet, it's an issue to NOT lock up the brakes.

RHG

 :disturbed: Weeee, thats lots of fun. I havnt really tried to lock up my toy yet. Illl let you know in a few months when it starts to rain again. I ran 35's on my Dodge and I locked them up all the time. I hate grandmas jumping on the brake at the last sec. Had to do some mild off roading to keep from mashing up their caddy :_oops:
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Quote from: Rebeltilldeath3 on August 17, 2005, 12:14:31 AM
If it's wet, I can lock mine up and slide for about 20 feet.

Actually, when it's wet, it's an issue to NOT lock up the brakes.

I was waiting for someone to say something like that  :disturbed:
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robinhood4x4

It hasn't rained around here since we got my friends truck running, but I kinda wonder if he can even lock them up when wet.  We'll have to try that later.  Anyway, he's got a d44 front, d60/toy hybrid rear (toyota drums), chevy 1 1/4 MC, stock 84 booster, and 38s.  He has to literally stand on the brakes to stop and even then it takes a while.  My feeling is he needs the T100 booster and probably a smaller MC.

Thanks guys and gals.
Quote from: cruzilaWell, if the ideal of excluding the lesser equipped (stock or otherwise) is accepted... there is no fundamental difference between that and a Sierra CLub ideal of exclusion. If we cannot embrace the 4wheel users as a whole. We are not fighting for access. I cannot be that shortsighted

crawlerdan

Quote from: robinhood4x4 on August 16, 2005, 10:06:16 PM
My friend doesn't believe me when I say people can lock up 38s with toyota brakes (upgraded of course). 

Whether you have toyota or some other brake combination, can you lock up your big tires (or at least stop really quick)? 
i locked up a set og 38.5 boggers pretty regularly on or off pavement

WHITE_TRASH

Who said anything about rain?  Pretty much anything with offroad tires can lock them up in the rain.  Try doing it on dry pavement. ;)  I can. :gap:
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

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79coyotefrg

my 79 brakes and a 1inch MC i can lock all 4


tell dude he needs to bleed those brakes, the right way,like 2 people,  cause something aint right
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whiteman

I can lock up my 31's  :gap: .  But with 35" boggers I only locked up one in the rear   :shudder:

Rocksurfer

Well on my Willys I can not only lock all 4 but can revese the process with the skinny pedal and smoke all 4 off the truck, that is if it doesn't lift the fronts off the ground. My Toy I've never tryed to lock them up but under hard braking I could if I really tried... I think.
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grandeyota

I can with my 36x14.50 tsl radials up front. I can't remember when my rear brakes worked last.
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: grandeyota on August 18, 2005, 07:53:18 AM
I can with my 36x14.50 tsl radials up front. I can't remember when my rear brakes worked last.
now it that on your yota or the little sweet ride in your avitar,  by the way can you post a larger pic of that little guy


but really,  do you have the rear LSproportioning valve removed or at least adjusted for lift
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Hyena

I only locked up my 35's on the road once.  That was before i rebuilt by front brakes.  I moved up to 37' and i can't lock them up anymore.  but all i have is the front brakes rebuilt and an ifs rear axle.

lilbuddy

I can lock up my 37's just about anytime. Stock breaks on my 81. Actually they lock up quite a bit. Thats all 4 tires too
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Anglewood

My 31's lock up quick!  Soon after buying the truck, I had a logging truck pull out in front of me on a curvy two lane road.  Talk about an Oh :pokinit: Stop, Locked all four and barely missed him, then he flipped me off!  Good thing it was a semi-straighaway and there was a decent shoulder.  If it was a burm I would have been toast.

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Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on August 18, 2005, 08:02:48 AM
now it that on your yota or the little sweet ride in your avitar, by the way can you post a larger pic of that little guy


but really, do you have the rear LSproportioning valve removed or at least adjusted for lift

The clutch/brake won't lock up anything on the mower :ack: The 90 IFS does a fine job of it on the toy stopping them though. Double checked on the way home today just for fun. The rear was just gear oil leaking out of the seals and soaking the rear shoes. Just too lazy to change it. Lift isn't an issue for the LSPV with 3"body lift.

As far as the mower, belt that turned the deck blades broke and just wanted to see what it would look like with my swampers on it instead of changing the belts. Some old springs from a wave runner trailer up front with a little sub frame with a spot for a cooler. A piece of pipe on the rear mower rims with a plate welded to the end that I drilled a toyota pattern into. Just bolt the tires on and go. Just something to run around with. Does about 12-14 mph.

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crawlerdan

Quote from: grandeyota on August 18, 2005, 07:23:12 PM
The clutch/brake won't lock up anything on the mower :ack: The 90 IFS does a fine job of it on the toy stopping them though. Double checked on the way home today just for fun. The rear was just gear oil leaking out of the seals and soaking the rear shoes. Just too lazy to change it. Lift isn't an issue for the LSPV with 3"body lift.

As far as the mower, belt that turned the deck blades broke and just wanted to see what it would look like with my swampers on it instead of changing the belts. Some old springs from a wave runner trailer up front with a little sub frame with a spot for a cooler. A piece of pipe on the rear mower rims with a plate welded to the end that I drilled a toyota pattern into. Just bolt the tires on and go. Just something to run around with. Does about 12-14 mph.


can you say redneck?.... im jealous!

lilbuddy

Quote from: grandeyota on August 18, 2005, 07:23:12 PM
The clutch/brake won't lock up anything on the mower :ack: The 90 IFS does a fine job of it on the toy stopping them though. Double checked on the way home today just for fun. The rear was just gear oil leaking out of the seals and soaking the rear shoes. Just too lazy to change it. Lift isn't an issue for the LSPV with 3"body lift.

As far as the mower, belt that turned the deck blades broke and just wanted to see what it would look like with my swampers on it instead of changing the belts. Some old springs from a wave runner trailer up front with a little sub frame with a spot for a cooler. A piece of pipe on the rear mower rims with a plate welded to the end that I drilled a toyota pattern into. Just bolt the tires on and go. Just something to run around with. Does about 12-14 mph.



So its off topic, but I NEED SOME FLEX PICS!!
RIP Kyota.... you are the man

GET IT!!!

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RHG

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i guarantee it wont flex, an old waverunner trailer leaf, those things are like a foot long and they're like an inch thick, good luck getting that to flex
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robinhood4x4

Hmmm...I predict you're going to have bumpsteer, your instant centers are all wrong.  You should go hi steer.   :greengrin:  :thumbs:  :laugh:
Quote from: cruzilaWell, if the ideal of excluding the lesser equipped (stock or otherwise) is accepted... there is no fundamental difference between that and a Sierra CLub ideal of exclusion. If we cannot embrace the 4wheel users as a whole. We are not fighting for access. I cannot be that shortsighted

vxrich

I can lock up 38.5s and I used to lock up 39.5s but Ive got chevy 3/4 ton front brakes and one ton rears....

6.72:1

I normally don't enjoy this, but it is necessary in Birmingham traffic sometimes. I have stainless lines to keep the line pressure up, V6 calipers, vented rotors, and the 40/17 Gound Hawgs lock right up. Scary, but brakes work well.
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wa4x4

So my 4runner says it has ABS, but I dont beleive it. I have locked em up before on dry pavement. Now the brakes are going out and its kinda scary...what is it when the car shakes when you brake hard? Like anything above 70mph when I brake at all it shakes.
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Quote from: wa4x4 on August 22, 2005, 06:20:18 AM
what is it when the car shakes when you brake hard? Like anything above 70mph when I brake at all it shakes.

Wheel alignment, rotors need to be turned or replaced or god forbid, wheel bearings?
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