Project idears...

[kneedownnate]

So my mind is wandering again, and a sammy buildup once again pops into my head.  I definately wanna go with toy axles, but for the offset rear I am thinkin t100 axle with one side shortened to keep it in line.  The real dilema comes in trying to figure out what engine to use.  Toyoder already has a mercedes diesel in his so that's out.  I've always thought a corolla gts engine would be cool, nearly doubling the hp, but it's a cammy, high rpm engine.  I've heard of people using swift gti engines, but those would be hard to get a hold of and I'm guessing also a high rpm unit.  I'd like to keep it semi small, japanese, and simple.  An older toy 3tc would be decent, dependable and could be made reasonably powerful, but would also be carbed.  So now for the input.............

[WHITE_TRASH]

Off the shelf swift 1.3 with yota trans and cases and a stretched wheelbase would be sick..

[mr4x42u]

the 3tc is a sweet motor,,but I would go 22r over the tc,,the r has more tourqe and lower rpm..

[RHG]

Hmmmm, please explain the offset rear axle a lil more? Sorry im not too familiar with sammys. I kinda like them though. Whats the other one like a sammy? Oh and WT is right, that'd be a sick rig.   Wouldnt you have to keep it a single case though because of the super-short wheelbase?

[WHITE_TRASH]

The rear axle on a samurai is offset to the passenger side like an old jeep or landcruiser.

[CTENG in KS]

The rear axle on a samurai is offset to the passenger side like an old jeep or landcruiser.

Which begs the question, why not a cruiser axle, this way you do not have to cut anything down and have custom shafts made?

If you are gonna swap all that stuff...link the rear!

[kneedownnate]

A cruiser axle would be cool, but harder to find and has less ground clearance.  I wanna stick with a small engine/tranny combo so I can still use the divorced case.  If I used a 22r it'd be a very tight fit and would constitute an entire drivetrain swap and more modification than I would want.  I'm down with a wheelbase stretch too, figured front would go forward a little and back would go rearward.  Coils all the way around would probably be easiest too. 

[MiniSimp]

Just buy a Toyzuki axle from Sky http://www.sky-manufacturing.com


Toyota offset Differentials for Suzuki Samurai's. Being built on a custom basis currently, we will soon be building fabricated housings available in various widths. Currently only available in the 56.5 width.

Ok, at this point what we do is use a Toyota center section, retube with 3/16ths DOM both sides of the housing. The short side axle is a stock axle resplined, the long side is a Toyota tundra 2 or 4 wheel drive axle, there both 6 lug. The axle is actually wider than the stock front, it becomes 56.5 inch's wide roughly. We generally combine the rear with the front wide axle kit to add 3 inch's to the front, making it 58 inch's wide. The offset is 6.5 inch's.
At this time, we supply the housing and short side axle for $350 outright. Soon we will be building a fabricated center section, price will increase slightly, but cool factor will be way up there, and clearance will be better as well.
If you have an 79-85 rear axle housing and axle you can send us, we do the modifications for $250.
The average price for a long side axle is $100-125.

[kneedownnate]

I saw that too, but it's just too easy.  My friend's dad narrows his own axles, did a 9" for his v8 bug, and could do mine for me.  Funny thing is my brother lives in the same town as Sky man.

[WHITE_TRASH]

Cruiser axles suck.  Well at least fj40 and 60's suck.  C-clips and sissy weak pinions are the order for them. 

[hudlenutz]

4AGZE 1.7L (?)  from a corolla.  It's supercharged, which should help out for low end torque on a 4cyl.  I think they're 170hp stock.  Big Mike would like to see you use the Tacoma 2.7L, also a 4 cyl, which has some great tranny/transfer options. 

Axles could be the '85 and older minis, or possibly the 80-series LC = high pinion, factory e-locker, big brakes, 1 inch larger birfs, full-floater 1-ton axle.  The cruiser axles would be full width ~63.5"

[BUDDERS]

If you want to stick with a suzuki engine, the 1.6 duel cam out of the amigo is the way to go.  My buddy has one in his sammy with 31" tires and lower gears and it did real good on the Rubicon.  Plus, it looks like a real easy swap.  If you want more info I can pick his brain for ya.

I have always thought that a subaru engine would be a nice motor for a sammy.  They have lots of torque at all rpm's due to a Flat 4 configuration.  Not sure how well it would fit between the sammy's narrow framerails though - definitely measure before truly considering.

just my 

[kneedownnate]

Ok, so now I'm doin a little thinkin and part of my whole idea on this is to keep it fairly simple.  I would still probably wanna go with the toy axles, but engine-wise it hasta stay small, and be a fairly compact engine/tranny combo so I can keep the zuki case.  I like the idea of the 4agze(?), if you look in the first post that was one of my prime choices, though finding a supercharged one is hard enough, let alone I think they only came in the mr2s.  I don't understand the suzuki engine in an isuzu amigo though???  The thing I need to keep in mind is sammys use a 2wd style tranny and divorced case, so I wanna keep my combo small and short enough to fit with minor mods. 

This thing will be mostly a DD and hunting rig if it gets built, since I don't crawl or wheel hard, so I'm not looking at going too radical with it.  I have enough toys if I wanna do that.  Keep it coming....

[hudlenutz]

4A on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-86-89-COROLLA-MR2-4AGZE-ENGINE-W-5-SPD-TRANS_W0QQitemZ7990802904QQcategoryZ33615QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You would definitely want to be checking to see if the seller has the harness and ecu before you buy.  You might be able to get those separate also.  I think if you want the 4A motor, your best bet is going to be an imported JDM engine, since as you say, they're tough to get your hands on.  Check to see if you need smog control in your area.  I got a JDM 6MGE that I put into an '85 toyota cressida, and it has ran great for 50,000mi so far.  After I got the old motor out and the new one in and wired up, all it needed was to have the distributor rotated 180 and it fired right up.

[UNBREAKABLE]

I have access to a 2.7 COMPLETE WITH ALL WIRING AND NECESSARY COMPONENTS! Shoot me a pm if you are interested

[kneedownnate]

That 4ag is pretty sweet, but my best bet would probably be to find a wrecked corolla so everything is there.  I think that 2.7 is too big for that project, but it'd be happy in my 80 yota...or my 81 2wd for that matter, but cost would be too high too.  If you really wanted to get rid of it I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who would love to take it off your hands.  And smog is not an issue for me either.

[BUDDERS]

You're right, it wasn't the Amigo I was thinking of - that's an Isuzu, but I really can't remember what Suzuki had a 1.6 with duel overhead cams.  Oh, well, sounds like you got you're mind made up on the 4agze.  If you're really set on that motor family, try to get a 4age 20valve silver top or black top - they have about the same power as the 4agze but are easily tuned for more power.  These engines were never available here, but in Japan and are quickly becoming a popular engine being imported here due to it's 20 valve design and individual throttle bodies.  You can do a little research at:  toysport.com