putting a 3.0 in my 2000 tacoma.

Started by jethro, July 17, 2005, 05:22:36 PM

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jethro

i have a 2000 Toyota Tacoma with a 2.7, one of the balance shafts lost a bushing and egged out it's hole in my block ( NON REPAIRABLE ). So i have a 3.0 liter in a 93 4runner that I'm in the process of putting it in my Tacoma. i have a bell housing for the 3.0, and i have a Friend that will make the spacer or adapter for it to go on my w59 tranny, and I'm in the process of getting an oil pan for a 3.4. because i was told that the 3.4 oil pan will bolt on the 3.0 block, is this correct?

toybuilt

I'm not sure about the oil pan, I would think that they wouldn't. You do know that the 3.0 isn't the best engine that toyota made
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my god, why woulld you do this,?so sad....

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I have access to a 99 2.7L If you are interested. :werd:
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wa4x4

Trust me I have a 3.0 in my 4runner and I would swap out for a 2.7 anyday if I didn't have to pay for it. If you have to get a V6 get the 3.4 thats a good engine.
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toyotaboy

i have a 3.4liter if you want to save yourself the heartache of the 3.0

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SC4Runner

I would defintly reconsider putting the 3.0 in ... not a good engine at all....
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wa4x4

I would swap out my 3.0 but I just serviced it and it cost me a lot of money (probably more than a swap would) and now it just wouldn't be too smart to spend way more than is needed :smack:
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BigMike

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Quote from: jethro on July 17, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
i was told that the 3.4 oil pan will bolt on the 3.0 block, is this correct?

Yes, this is correct. In fact, I just did an oil pan conversion on a 3.0 using an oil pan from a 95 T100 3.4L 5VZ-FE engine. The oil pan, windage tray, and pickup are all interchangeable.

As for your swap, I know everyone else here has put you down, but I would hate to see someone do all of this work just to have a slower + worse gas mileage + more headaches + smog ILLEAGLE in the US + non-OBDII truck in the end.

Are you in America? I know in California it is illeagle to replace an engine with an older engine.

And I will promise you that your truck will have less performance and guzzle the gasoline with that 3.0...

3RZ-FE   4-cylinder        150@4800   177@4000
3VZ-E   6-cylinder          150@4800   180@3400

The 3VZ with all of the stuff under the hood has gotta be at least a good 80 lbs more than the 3RZ. The only advantage to the 3.0 is it's got a better bottom end power band, and that's it.

The 3.0 is like an 80-year old grandpa trying to play football with his 21-year old grandson (the 2.7). Sure gramps might be strong, but he moves like Roger Ebert trying to swim in a pool filled with mayonnaise. And once he gets up to speed, he has to have tail wind in order to maintain his speed and when he stops he will need to rest for about 2 weeks to recover from all the energy he spent.

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wa4x4

Passes are a pain in the neck too. I go over the mountains a couple times a year...try doing 70-80 up hill for an hour straight with a 3.0 and then try again with a 2.7. 3.0 is a lug and you have to gas up when you come down off the pass. I wish I could afford the 2.7 swap. I got my ass beat by a 1996 tacoma 2wd the other day on the freeway and felt pretty bad... before tacoma came: :muscles: After: :biked:
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CruzrDave

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Quote from: jethro on July 17, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
i have a 2000 Toyota Tacoma with a 2.7, one of the balance shafts lost a bushing and egged out it's hole in my block ( NON REPAIRABLE ). So i have a 3.0 liter in a 93 4runner that I'm in the process of putting it in my Tacoma. i have a bell housing for the 3.0, and i have a Friend that will make the spacer or adapter for it to go on my w59 tranny, and I'm in the process of getting an oil pan for a 3.4. because i was told that the 3.4 oil pan will bolt on the 3.0 block, is this correct?

First of all, Good choice of engine. I love the 3.0, if you treat it right it will treat you right. Second, Its not a good choice for your Tacoma. The 3.4 would be a better swap but you will need to change the trans aswell.

You asked if a 3.4 the pan would work. A rear sump 3.4 pan will bolt to the block but the pick-up tube will not bolt to the 3.0 main cap. The proper oil pan is 2wd T100 with a 3VZE engine not the 5VZ-fe. That is incorrect Mike. That is like asking you grampa to play football but he is still to busy working on installing a 2.7. :laugh: 


You need the pan, pickup tube and the oil baffel tray.

We sell the pan kit for $200.
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4THEWKN

I would rebuild the 2.7 and tweek it a bit. Heck Just looking at the weight ratio to horsepower alone your ahead over the 3.0    3RZ-FE   4-cylinder        150@4800   177@4000
                              3VZ-E   6-cylinder          150@4800   180@3400
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wa4x4

He has a hole in his block...rebuilding should not be in his future...
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4THEWKN

So what yor your saying is that putting a 3.0 in your cruiser right
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CruzrDave

Quote from: 4THEWKN on July 19, 2005, 03:52:20 PM
So what yor your saying is that putting a 3.0 in your cruiser right


What I'm saying is I wouldn't put a 3.0 in my cruiser or a tacoma, But I will keep it in my truck since it has been extremely reliable and easy to work on.
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crazywb

Easy to work on.  Man you must have little hands :rofl:
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2006 WRX TR 320whp 343wtq, taken in a road rage wreck
1998 4runner, needs to become wheeler status

79coyotefrg

Quote from: jethro on July 17, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
i have a 2000 Toyota Tacoma with a 2.7, one of the balance shafts lost a bushing and egged out it's hole in my block ( NON REPAIRABLE ). So i have a 3.0 liter in a 93 4runner that I'm in the process of putting it in my Tacoma. i have a bell housing for the 3.0, and i have a Friend that will make the spacer or adapter for it to go on my w59 tranny, and I'm in the process of getting an oil pan for a 3.4. because i was told that the 3.4 oil pan will bolt on the 3.0 block, is this correct?

3.O no  into 2000taco  :jail: California would shoot you and dump your poor little body in the desert for even thinking it,   :slap:   

besides being illegal,   its just wrong man :dunno:  pull that engine and have the balance shaft holes bored and sleeved  :smack:   

done deal


oh befor you say it cant be done ,  i just helped a buddy rebuild a 4 cyls john deere deisel with balance shafts,  and thats 'egg'xactly what we did to his
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CruzrDave

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Quote from: crazywb on July 19, 2005, 04:02:32 PM
Easy to work on. Man you must have little hands :rofl:
Well its a hole lot easyer with a straight axle. Even with out its not that bad. You've spent more time working on your22re then I have on my 3.0 . What that about?  Got service manuel? :rofl2:
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crazywb

lol never needed one of tho's there service manuals with with my 22re.  Must be a 3.0 thing :burnout:
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CruzrDave

That explain the O-ring and oil pickup tube story.

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eddyb

I would love to know what is so bad about the 3.0.  There are four of them in my group and we love them.  Mine has 253,000 miles on it and runs like a top. 
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BigMike

The problem is that they only produce 50.0 Horsepower per Liter, while the 3.4 produces 54.4 HP/L, and to make matters even more Impressive, the 2.7 4 CYLINDER produces 55.5 HP/L :bowdown:

So per displacement, the 2.7 I4 outperforms even the 3.4 V6.

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crawlerdan

for thier size, they are slugs, they are unreliable, often hard to get to pass emisions, noisy, in most cases, and allergic to head gaskets... i realize that there are some that run them and like them, but all the prior claims are in generality and my personal opinion, if you got one and you like it, rock on! i wouldnt run one though :nope: :hammer:

CruzrDave

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Quote from: eddyb on July 20, 2005, 06:46:59 PM
I would love to know what is so bad about the 3.0. There are four of them in my group and we love them. Mine has 253,000 miles on it and runs like a top.

Thank you, eddyb. How many poeple that complain about the 3vze have had first hand experience with them or owned them? Before I bought my 3.0 truck I talked sh!$ about the 3.0 because I was informed by web lies. True, they are 150hp and what ever mikey says but with proper gearing what more is needed. I think the misinformation has lead to the 3.0 reputation. Sure head gaskets were a problem, toyota recalled them and changed the head gasket with a new design. Also, can you exspect a 4-door 4-runner with auto to be as quick as a short bed pick-up with a 5spd? There is more weight and loss of HP with the auto, I think its really the fault of the auto trans.  :idea:

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Quote from: eddyb on July 20, 2005, 06:46:59 PM
I would love to know what is so bad about the 3.0. There are four of them in my group and we love them. Mine has 253,000 miles on it and runs like a top.
AMEN
My 3.0 has like 225k miles on it and still runs great.
I think that most people who talk chit about this motor
prolly have never even owned one.
Mostly web b.s.
If I was going to go through the trouble of swapin motors
it would be a straight 6 out of a supra not the 3.0 or the 3.4.
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wa4x4

I have the 3.0 in my 4runner. It is a good engine, or is now that I bought the car. My engine was rebuilt at the dealership for more than you want to know. I regret rebuilding it and not swapping a 3.4. Now my engine is okay, but before I rebuilt it (AT 135,000 MILES) I could barely get up to 70 on the freeway and hills were the ultimate test. I have just had a bad experience with this motor. Now it is okay though and I hope to get 300,000 miles out of it.
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crazywb

  Is that in inches or mm  :moon:    :moon:    :moon:    :moon:    :moon:
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