directions for welding spider gears

[Whitetrash]

I have a 1985 Toyota 4-Runner and was looking for directions, pictures, tools,etc. that would help me with welding my rear spider gears i have 5.29 gears in a 4 cylinder housing.

[Rebeltilldeath3]

White Trash has multiplied?


The world is ending...............


You just weld the spider gears, that's it.

[Duffil]

weld the spiders to the cross shafts as well as the other gears...thats it, as far as i know...

[Hyena]

Also weld them to the carrier, much stronger that way.  Weld anything you can to anything you can anywere you can weld it. 

[mr4x42u]

best way is to take it apart,,it will keep all the berries out of the bearings and gears,,,also make sure it is clean..I use super clen andhot water then some carb clean..

[mudguts]

Welcome to the board Whitetrash, I found this in a search    http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=8923.msg87629#msg87629
there is a few pictures of welded turd members.
If you stick around long enough, you will meet   WHITETRASH   The Big Unit upstairs broke the mold after he made that one.

[WHITE_TRASH]

Heres an excerpt from the link that toecutter listed. 

[IronClad]

do not weld to the pin or the case !!! only weld the gears themselfs. if you want your gearset to survive anyway

[BUBBA]

What I do is take a bolt and lay it in the valley between where the gears meet.Then just weld it up.Don't worry about welding it up to the carrier or crosspin Never had a problem with this setup even in a d/d.

[Duffil]

im curious, cuz thats how my buddy did his, so why not weld the pin?  will it weaken it?

[WHITE_TRASH]

I wouldnt weld the pin myself but thats just me no real reason.  But I do weld a plate inside the "window" of the gears and I weld everything together as a solid chunk of metal.  Everytime Ive just welded the spiders to the side gears Ive blown the spider gears up and destroyed a ring & pinion set.

[Duffil]

good enough for me!!

[Whitetrash]

once i get the third member out of the axle do i take off my ring and pinion and then weld it or can i leave it all together. would i have to take the spider gears out to weld in between the teeth or does the plate setup eliminate that problem.

[WHITE_TRASH]

Leave it all together and burn all the metal into one big ball of crap.

[dentedfender]

changed the name so there isn't two white trashes but the welded spider gears are working great the truck can climb up anything now here is some pics but i never got a pic of the plate welded into place but thanks for all your help.

[dentedfender]

plate not welded in yet

[dentedfender]

gears welded together not to the center pin or carrier

[trailhunter]

i think he forgot to tell ya to leave the flat plate in and weld it to the spider gears. Thats what i do when i weld up my thrids and all my buddy thirds to. Its lasted me about 4 years so far. so be carefull its as bullet prof as you might think. 

[dentedfender]

that plate is weled in i just never took a picture of it all done.

[toybuilt]

There goes your tires

[BIG BALLS]

   A better way is to collect up some old wheel balancing weights, make sure they are lead, then melt down all this lead and then just pour in the molten lead into the spider gears, this will lock up everything solid and will not damage the gears in case you change your mild, if you have a higher heat source then you can use copper, gold, silver, bronze.

This method does work, however make sure that you are wearing the correct gear when you work with lead, it is poison, it can kill you.