Topic: 22re crank shaft bolt

[franky112665]

I need to change my oil pump on my DD. It’s a 94 xcab 4x4. I’ve tried the bump start with no luck. I’ve tried the jamming the pulley where it want turn with a punch only to bend it. What’s left. Heat??
Thought about taking some angle iron, drill 2 holes in it to be bolt where the power steering pump pulley bolts up to use as a stop when breaking the bolt loose. What’s the best approach to doing this myself?

[OVRAROK]

Have you tried a good impact gun soak it pbblaster or equivalent

[franky112665 [OP]]

No PB. I have tried air and battery impact. With no luck. Got some ideas off  utube. But none have worked so far.

[OVRAROK]

I need to go out in the garage and find my solution.  It was a bar attached to the PS pulley. I have a 4ft breaker bar that helps too

[OVRAROK]

Here's what I made.

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[franky112665 [OP]]

How do you use it? I’ve read on some other post on this site some guys take the timing chain off and let it jam the crank. Have you done this method?

[Gnarly4X]

I've NEVER been able to get that bolt off without an air impact wrench.

Gnarls.

[cbeers]

one of my first projects was a new top end and that bolt kicked my butt.
broke quality tools trying
air
extensions
nothing would work

raised the white flag and took it to Yodaman.

they had a clever solution
they very carefully made a relief cut in the shoulder/flange  of the bolt which allowed it to taco ever so slightly...relieving some pressure

then an air hammer to finish the job

i think there is a pic on my build thread

 

CB

[franky112665 [OP]]

Thanks. I’m going to use some PB and let it soak for a coue of days then attack it on Thursday.

[franky112665 [OP]]

Got it!!  PB blaster and a click torch. Soaked with PBB, heated it up. Then used the bump start and it broke loose. Thanks for the advice.

[sirdeuce]

How do you use it? I’ve read on some other post on this site some guys take the timing chain off and let it jam the crank. Have you done this method?

DON'T TRY THIS METHOD! I've heard of it and the damage it can cause.

First thing to consider is the timing cover breaking. The chain bunches up and Houdini's itself out the side.

Second is the crank snout going it's own way.

Even if it does work, and nothing breaks you WILL need to change the timing chain, it's not designed for such use. The tiing cover will most likely leak. And the one thing that you will really hate is the crank snout bending and takiing out the #1 main bearing and saddle.

Not worth taking the chance.

[Gnarly4X]

DON'T TRY THIS METHOD! I've heard of it and the damage it can cause.

First thing to consider is the timing cover breaking. The chain bunches up and Houdini's itself out the side.

Second is the crank snout going it's own way.

Even if it does work, and nothing breaks you WILL need to change the timing chain, it's not designed for such use. The tiing cover will most likely leak. And the one thing that you will really hate is the crank snout bending and takiing out the #1 main bearing and saddle.

Not worth taking the chance.

What moron posted on "this site" such an idiotic idea!!

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

What moron posted on "this site" such an idiotic idea!!

Gnarls.

No idea, but I had to put in my 2 cents. I don't really like putting a breaker bar on the crank snout and turning the engine over, but it does work. Not sure it's any worse than holdin the flywheel to torque the balancer bolt, but I do have my reservations.

[Gnarly4X]

No idea, but I had to put in my 2 cents. I don't really like putting a breaker bar on the crank snout and turning the engine over, but it does work. Not sure it's any worse than holdin the flywheel to torque the balancer bolt, but I do have my reservations.

The number of posts and historical discussions about loosening and retorquing this nut has always puzzled my 3 brain cells. 

It takes me 5 seconds with my air impact to loosen it or retorque it.

Gnarls.

[cbeers]

Gnarly, the same could be said for rebuilding engines, sometimes things don't go like they should.

I literally broke snap on tools using huge extension bars.....am i dumb?

Maybe but fasteners don't always cooperate.

CB

[sirdeuce]

Gnarly, the same could be said for rebuilding engines, sometimes things don't go like they should.

I literally broke snap on tools using huge extension bars.....am i dumb?

Maybe but fasteners don't always cooperate.

CB

If you're breaking tools, as I have, you need to upgrade your tools or practices. Short -cuts and cheating can cause more problems than they're worth. Take it from someone that has taken the end off a VW swing axle axle. Would have been better to sacrifice that nut than have to replace that axle. And the brake drum.

[Gnarly4X]

OK.. while the globalists are "transforming" America into dystopian chaos let's spend more time talking about slurry and a bolt.

That harmonic balancer pulley bolt is notorious for sure.

On early Toyota 22s its factory torque spec 116 foot pounds!

It is a mama bear to get loose and a real sunny beetch to retorque to spec.

I am more that shocked that I've never seen a simple tool to bolt to the pulley and stretch across to the frame.

I've seen one Amazon:  YANWEN Crank Pulley Tool for Subaru, Screw Wrench Holder Kit for Subaru Imprezas EJ Only, Legacy, Outback, Foresters XT, Baja SVX Saab 9-2X

I've been lucky with all 4 of my Toy pickups using my old Craftsman 1/2" 750 lbs air impact tool with about 150 PSI on the compressor gauge, they have all broken loose (after soaking it with liquid wrench overnight) and retorqued to spec with zero issues.

Gnarls.

[franky112665 [OP]]

Calm down guys. I got it runs good with no leaks. Thanks for the help.