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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #30 on: Jul 31, 2018, 05:41:49 PM »
So this combination is not compatible?

No.

Look at the measurements from the link I supplied from LC engineering.   
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #31 on: Jul 31, 2018, 05:50:22 PM »
Okay thanks

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #32 on: Jul 31, 2018, 06:23:37 PM »
The chain that was working has 98 links. The chain came off(jumped) the top sprocket & went to the back side of the sprocket. I did take a look at the engine block, it does have the thing on the block that is circled. It has 22R stamped in the small area  beside the block number(serial number)?
sorry but with it having that thing on the block it is NOT a 83 block.   if it has it it is impossible that its a 83 block.

The latest information I have is the head is a 1992 model & the block is 1983 model.

that is physically not possible.  The 83 piston would smash into the bottom of the 92 head the first time you tried to crank it and would either stop cold or shatter the head and/or piston.

If you drove this even 5 minutes it absolutely has to be a 83 head and a 92 block.  and even then it would run like :pokinit:.

BiL has no idea what he's working on.  get pictures and compare them to the pictures already posted here.   I am not trying to be mean here but I could rebuild a 22r in my sleep.

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #33 on: Jul 31, 2018, 06:41:31 PM »
Thank you all for your information. I'm looking to buy another truck, not sure what kind yet. I would like to put another engine in this truck, but haven't found one yet.

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #34 on: Aug 01, 2018, 03:14:19 PM »
Out of curiosity, is there a year model head that will work with the block that it is in the truck? One person on here said it would. Instead of pulling the engine out I could replace the head. It would save time & money. Thanks 

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #35 on: Aug 01, 2018, 03:37:46 PM »
that is physically not possible.  The 83 piston would smash into the bottom of the 92 head the first time you tried to crank it and would either stop cold or shatter the head and/or piston.

If you drove this even 5 minutes it absolutely has to be a 83 head and a 92 block.  and even then it would run like :pokinit:.


What if it were an 83 block with >85 pistons and a 92 head? Would that at least permit it to turn a full revolution without piston-valve contact?

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #36 on: Aug 01, 2018, 05:41:05 PM »
When I bought rebuilt items for the engine I bought the ones for 1990 engine. I'm not sure on what combination that he used. Lewis you all knows what might/will work better than I.

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #37 on: Aug 01, 2018, 07:04:36 PM »
Here is what I would do, pull the exhaust manifold and see what head you actually have, it shouldn't take you more than a half hour, there is no point in ordering anything until you have determined what you actually have.

If you can post up some pics of the block we could likely help you figure it out quicker.
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #38 on: Aug 01, 2018, 07:21:40 PM »
Okay. I'm not sure when I'll get to do that, but will try.

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #39 on: Aug 01, 2018, 10:09:38 PM »
 :outtahere:
What if it were an 83 block with >85 pistons and a 92 head? Would that at least permit it to turn a full revolution without piston-valve contact?
um, well. maybe. i'd have to scratch my head on that a minute


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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #40 on: Aug 01, 2018, 10:16:59 PM »
Out of curiosity, is there a year model head that will work with the block that it is in the truck? One person on here said it would. Instead of pulling the engine out I could replace the head. It would save time & money. Thanks 

from what I have gathered the engine/truck is a 1990 so confirm what the head you have is by pulling the exhaust off but a 1990 head should bolt right on with a 96 link chain.

and to show you I know what I'm doing with these engines, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VX1AFhpOck
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #41 on: Aug 01, 2018, 10:20:58 PM »
Okay. I'm not sure when I'll get to do that, but will try.

where are you located ??
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #42 on: Aug 02, 2018, 11:52:41 AM »
:outtahere:um, well. maybe. i'd have to scratch my head on that a minute

Given what we think he has, it kind of has to. :gap:
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #43 on: Aug 02, 2018, 03:01:00 PM »
I live in south Mississippi, about an hour north of the coast.

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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #44 on: Aug 02, 2018, 06:23:53 PM »
I live in south Mississippi, about an hour north of the coast.

that would be around Jackson??  Hattiesburg??   I live in SW Arkansas
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #45 on: Aug 02, 2018, 06:25:36 PM »
i might have to assemble some spare parts just to see how that goes
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Re: timing chain too long
« Reply #46 on: Aug 03, 2018, 05:28:53 PM »
I'm sorry on the wording of where do I live. It is about 20 miles west of Lucedale, MS & about 50 miles south of Hattiesburg, MS.

 
 
 
 
 

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