Topic: Help!!! I put gear oil in restrict pin w56 4runner 85

[ArloMyles]

I am a super newb and I was really excited to when i bought a 4 x 4 with 35's on it. I wanted to do all the fluids. I was attempting to change the transmission fluid in my manual 85 4runner and I was not able to get the fill plug off. I researched filling the transmission through the clutch and apparently you can fill the transmission fluid through the clutch. I located a plug that I thought went into the clutch and then began to put in gear oil because I thought it went into the transmission. Turned out to be a restrict  pin just underneath where the clutch inserts into the transmission. I am now getting very high rpms in all my gears and I'm not able to get it up to speed. How can I fix this issue? Please help!  I was able to properly fill the transmission and take it for a test drive but it still presenting the same issues.

[Mudder]

What do you mean by fill it through the clutch? You can pull the shifter off and fill it.

[OVRAROK]

Sounds like you may have saturated clutch with oil 

[:)bestgen4runner]

New clutch is the solution

[Slabzilla]

Sounds like you might have filled your clutch cavity with gear oil, clutch replacement might now be in your future. Get a Factory service manual/FSM and learn or have someone qualified check this out for you. For future refference you CANNOT fill your trans through the clutch. 

[ArloMyles [OP]]

I was able to refill the transmission through the clutch but at first I attempted to to refill it through these pins.

[ArloMyles [OP]]

Ok thanks!

[emsvitil]

If you got oil in the clutch, it should be running out the hole at the bottom of the bellhousing.....

[emsvitil]

I"ve added oil by just taking the shifter out........

Show a picture of the fill plug.     

Did you round it off?    You may be able to get it loose with hammer and chisel.

[Gnarly4X]

I could NOT remove the filler plug on the side of my transmission.  I filled the transmission through the pressure sensor hole.  It sits slightly above the filler hole, so I just used a bent a tie wrap and dipped it into the oil to gauge the level of oil.

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

...   You may be able to get it loose with hammer and chisel.

He's JOKING!!! 

Gnarls.

[redneckcustoms13]

I was able to refill the transmission through the clutch but at first I attempted to to refill it through these pins.

I am not understanding what you are trying to say. It is not possible to "refill the transmission through the clutch". The clutch consists of a flywheel, friction disk, pressure plate, and throw out bearing. All of which is located inside of the bellhousing. It is dry inside the bell housing. If you put gear oil inside of the bell housing it would simply pour back out of the bottom. It is not a sealed unit. 

[Mudder]

He's JOKING!!! 

Gnarls.

Actually he's  probably not. If the plug is rounded and you can't get it off you can it it off by putting a chisel on the side and hit it in the direction to loosen the plug. It's pretty effective.

[mudmaster]

I've done this more than once.

[Gnarly4X]

Actually he's  probably not. If the plug is rounded and you can't get it off you can it it off by putting a chisel on the side and hit it in the direction to loosen the plug. It's pretty effective.

Uhhh... I would NOT take a chisel to that plug!  If you cannot loosen it leave it ALONE!!''

Gnarls.

[mudmaster]

Why?

[:)bestgen4runner]

Uhhh... I would NOT take a chisel to that plug!  If you cannot loosen it leave it ALONE!!''

Gnarls.

Its a common practice. When done correctly it works very well.
Maybe not a good suggestion for a rookie.

[Gnarly4X]

Why?

If the plug is rounded, it most likely  will not loosen - even with a chisel and hammer. If you take a chisel to it you may end up  fracturing the hole. That tranny is alloy, most likely aged.  Unless you want to risk damaging that section of tranny, it's better to remove the pressure sensor and fill it from there, or you can open up the shifter plate, but you will need to check the oil level at the pressure sensor hole.

That's just my opinion - it may be worthless.

[:)bestgen4runner]

If the plug is rounded, it most likely  will not loosen - even with a chisel and hammer. If you take a chisel to it you may end up  fracturing the hole. That tranny is alloy, most likely aged.  Unless you want to risk damageing that section of tranny. It's better to remove the pressure sensor and fill it from there, or you can open up the shifter plate, but you will need to check the oil level at the pressure sensor hole.

That's just my opinion - it may be worthless.

pressure sensor ?

[redneckcustoms13]

Never seen a pressure sensor. I've seen a reverse switch before.

[Snowtoy]

If the plug is rounded, it most likely  will not loosen - even with a chisel and hammer. If you take a chisel to it you may end up  fracturing the hole. That tranny is alloy, most likely aged.

 

The short height of the plug is what lends itself to rounding, especially if using a 6 sided socket, or the often "close enough" standard size when not having a metric set on hand.

[mudmaster]

If the plug is rounded, it most likely  will not loosen - even with a chisel and hammer. If you take a chisel to it you may end up  fracturing the hole. That tranny is alloy, most likely aged.  Unless you want to risk damaging that section of tranny, it's better to remove the pressure sensor and fill it from there, or you can open up the shifter plate, but you will need to check the oil level at the pressure sensor hole.

That's just my opinion - it may be worthless.

That may be truw fir someone that doesn't know what they're doing.

[Gnarly4X]

 

The short height of the plug is what lends itself to rounding, especially if using a 6 sided socket, or the often "close enough" standard size when not having a metric set on hand.

Well, "what lends itself to rounding" is the idiot that over-tightened the plug!!  I tried a 6-point impact socket, and the drain plug on my W56 transmission would NOT move.

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

Mudmaster...  "That may be truw fir someone that doesn't know what they're doing. "

I probably don't know what I'm doing!   

I will keep my big hammer and chisel handy from now on. 

Gnarls.

[mudmaster]

Thank for admitting your limitations.

[ArloMyles [OP]]

I convinced a friend (with beer) who knows whats goin on to help me check it out! Thanks guys!!!

[Willard]

I have removed a butt load of rounded/stripped bolts with a hammer and chisel. And will continue to do so lol. Never damaged the component that the bolt was related to.


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[Gnarly4X]

Thank for admitting your limitations.

If it weren't for MY "limitations", YOU wouldn't look so flipp'n smart!! 

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

I have removed a butt load of rounded/stripped bolts with a hammer and chisel. And will continue to do so lol. Never damaged the component that the bolt was related to.


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Hey Willard,

Yeah... over the past 40 years or so, I've removed successfully a good number, probably not a butt load, of stuck bolts, twisted off bolts, rounded nuts, studs, and set screws with a chisel and hammer.

On my tranny, the filler plug was already semi-rounded from previous owners, so when I started I figured I may have trouble.  With the amount of torque I applied to it with all my tools, I was stunned that I could not turn it.  I figured there is no way hammering on it with a chisel was going to make it turn.  When I chipped a little bit of the tranny case around the plug hole I decided that fubar'ing it was not worth getting it out at that time.

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

Never seen a pressure sensor. I've seen a reverse switch before.

Oh.. crap....  ..  all this time I thought that thing was a pressure sensor of some kind.  So, it's reverse switch? 

How does it work?  What activates it? 

Gnarls.