Author Topic: 2wd axle Q! (Read 2089 times)

yota_krawler · « **on:** Dec 14, 2008, 08:49:02 PM »

I am wondering how wide a 2wd axle is? I might be trading my 87 4by s10 for a 91 2wd yote. The reason I want to know is because I am thinking about maybe putting a non ifs 4by axle in the rear. Is that dumb?

jimbo74 · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 08:52:38 PM »

it is the same width as a regular pickup of the same years

yota_krawler · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 08:55:28 PM »

So I could put a, say for instance 85 rear axle in it?

Duffil · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 08:56:39 PM »

it would be 3" too narrow, but you could if you wanted to.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 08:58:34 PM »

so then they are just as wide as an IFS 4x?

Duffil · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:00:13 PM »

yes.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:01:26 PM »

oh, ok. thats all I was wanting to know. Would that benefit me at all?

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:18:03 PM »

are you wanting lower gears?
that would be cool but 6 lug in the rear.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:19:33 PM »

ya, I dont know what comes in them but I thought hell I could throw a 4by rear axle in it and do what ever gears I want. lock it up, put a body lift on it throw some 31s

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:20:59 PM »

thats a plan
I was gonna do that a few times.

hel! later you could do a SA swap and a trans and have a sas'd rig.

Duffil · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:23:10 PM »

axle bearings and carrier bearings are the same, so is it possible to swap the side gears from a 2wd carrier into a 4wd carrier, allowing use of the 2wd axle shafts? you'd end up with a 5lug 8inch rearend.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:25:32 PM »

hell ya, it has next to nothing for miles too no rebuild it was some old guys that didnt really drive it. Its my assistant managers and she hates the clutch. Its hard on her knee. So I said why not trade for my auto 4by and she is thinkin about it.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:26:14 PM »

Quote from: Duffil on Dec 14, 2008, 09:23:10 PM

axle bearings and carrier bearings are the same, so is it possible to swap the side gears from a 2wd carrier into a 4wd carrier, allowing use of the 2wd axle shafts? you'd end up with a 5lug 8inch rearend.

really? thatd be awsome!

Duffil · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:30:33 PM »

Quote from: Yota_Krawler on Dec 14, 2008, 09:26:14 PM

really? thatd be awsome!

i don't know for sure. notice the ?? marks in there. I've never been inside a 2wd axle.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:31:39 PM »

I wonder who has. that would be cool.

Duffil · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:35:07 PM »

I'd love to try it. it's an idea I've had for quite a while.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:38:41 PM »

well if she wants to trade than I am gonna try it! it will be my new build up!

boggerunner · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:40:48 PM »

ive got a 2wd rear axle off an 84 that uses a 4wd 4cyl carrier, it came with 3.05's and i put in a 4.10 3rd member, so there are some 2wds that are runnin a 8" ring gear, but most use the 7.5 ring gear, the same as in ifs front end, so gears and lockers are available for it, either way

Duffil · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:48:52 PM »

Quote from: boggerunner on Dec 14, 2008, 09:40:48 PM

ive got a 2wd rear axle off an 84 that uses a 4wd 4cyl carrier, it came with 3.05's and i put in a 4.10 3rd member, so there are some 2wds that are runnin a 8" ring gear, but most use the 7.5 ring gear, the same as in ifs front end, so gears and lockers are available for it, either way

some do, you are right. In my case, I was wanting to upgrade for strength. Don't know about the OP though.

boggerunner · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 09:54:40 PM »

wanna buy my 2wd rear axle, if u throw in a 4wd one, its spring over, and 2wd is spring under, so your gonna either need new perches, or lift the front to match, ive seen a spacer for the upper a-arm ball joint, but cant remember where i saw it. i think it was for 1.5" of lift

jimbo74 · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 14, 2008, 11:06:51 PM »

www.sdori.com is who makes the front balljoint spacer. i actually contacted them and helped design them. i ran the pre-production prototype on myo ld 85 2wd. some 2wds had a 8" rear end. the housings were the same as the 4wd, except sprind under and 5 lug... most of the 2wds had a 7.5" diff though.. i had an 8" 2wd diff that had 3.07s.... i put in a third from my friends 86 4x4 runner with a 4.10 gearset... you can actually swap the shafts out without issue... width is the same between generations, 84-85, and 86-95 4x2 or 4x4

yota_krawler · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 15, 2008, 05:47:30 PM »

so with the ball joint spacer, would match if I were to do a spring over?

Throw in a ifs rear end, 4:37s or 4:56s and a locker. Put a bl lift on it, I wonder what size tire it would fit, like a 33 maybe? I think it would be a bitchin little pick up!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 15, 2008, 09:48:21 PM »

balljoint spacer is for the front. see if u can find some old pics of my 2wd

yota_krawler · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 16, 2008, 02:24:39 PM »

Quote from: jimbo74 on Dec 15, 2008, 09:48:21 PM

balljoint spacer is for the front. see if u can find some old pics of my 2wd

ya I know it is for the front. I was wondering if by putting balljoint spacers in and a sprung over rear, would it match...

Post up!

boggerunner · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 16, 2008, 04:16:02 PM »

nope, the rear would be way higher, measure th height of the rear axle, and the thickness of the leaf pack for example rear axle is 3" from bottom to top and leaf pack is 1.5", you would get a 4.5" lift from a spring over, and the ball joint spacer is a 1 or 1.5" spacer. they also make lift spindles for 2wd yotas.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 18, 2008, 02:16:13 AM »

actually, 2wd lift spindles for the were discontinued, but you might be able to find remaining stock. i also had a set of fabtech spindles on mine.... here is an idea though, if you really want a badass 2wd... total chaos, its serious $, but can't be beat in terms of performance

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