Topic: Calling all 4runner rear window gurus!!

[crawlerdan]

on my runner, i disabled the rear window, wiper ect. many years ago. now that im a little older and more picky, i decided that i would like everything in my truck to work.

so i sourced all the parts at pick and pull
and installed them


at this point-my rear window will go up and down with the switch, and the key in tail gate-GOOD!!
THE REAR DEFROSTER WORKS!!

ive tested all the sensors in the gate, on the top, and all the relays, they work

the problem is-the rear wiper does not work.
i can supply 12v at the motor, and it will work, i can supply 12v at the switch and it will move. the switch is good, tested it on another runner.

so whats the deal??

i know the window needs to be fully up for the wiper to work, it is and the switch in the tailgate is being activated, so im at a loss as to why it will not work, all the peices fit...poop!

[crawlerdan [OP]]

ive seen the write up that is on 4x4wire-and talked with the author-not much help at this point

[bigarms23]

try 12voltguy for a very detailed diagram that worked for me

[crawlerdan [OP]]

try 12voltguy for a very detailed diagram that worked for me

ok!

[AaronB]

i need to figure mine out. the window wont work at the switch.

Hey Bigarms do you have a link? I looked on the website but didn't see any tech articles.

[crawlerdan [OP]]

i need to figure mine out. the window wont work at the switch.

Hey Bigarms do you have a link? I looked on the website but didn't see any tech articles.

me too, and aaron,i have an extra window switch if you need one

[Tallchevy]

If your putting power to the switch at the center console & it works then it sounds like your power source from the fuse panel to the switch in the center console. Did you check the fuse?

[AaronB]

yeah I checked the fuses. Im pretty sure its the switch but i just want to make sure.

[Oddmar]

We messed with those wipers on our 4Runners for awhile, but i've now come to the conclusion that the cap on the 4Runner is really just a glorified topper. I don't have a wiper on either of my toppers, why do i need one on the back of a 4Runner? You don't see them on the rear windows of many vans, either. Probably the manufacturer of an SUV is just required by law to have a wiper on the rear.

So now i just remove the motor and wiper, and fiberglass over the holes. A little paint and it looks factory, and i don't have to worry about it failing, or the window refusing to go up or down cause the wiper isn't in the perfect position.

[crawlerdan [OP]]

If your putting power to the switch at the center console & it works then it sounds like your power source from the fuse panel to the switch in the center console. Did you check the fuse?

as far as i know, there is not a fuse for the wiper, and if theer was, it would control the window as well, and the window works

[crawlerdan [OP]]

We messed with those wipers on our 4Runners for awhile, but i've now come to the conclusion that the cap on the 4Runner is really just a glorified topper. I don't have a wiper on either of my toppers, why do i need one on the back of a 4Runner? You don't see them on the rear windows of many vans, either. Probably the manufacturer of an SUV is just required by law to have a wiper on the rear.

So now i just remove the motor and wiper, and fiberglass over the holes. A little paint and it looks factory, and i don't have to worry about it failing, or the window refusing to go up or down cause the wiper isn't in the perfect position.

i will admit taht this is not a need, its a want. i want everything on my rig to work, i just spent 2 hours aiming the headlights for poops sake

[46&2]

on my runner, i disabled the rear window, wiper ect. many years ago. now that im a little older and more picky, i decided that i would like everything in my truck to work.

Wasnt it a PITA to get stuff  in your tub with the window stuck up? or did you have it stuck down with the top always off??

[bigarms23]

i didnt have a link but here is the phone number 530-534-1812 i also send him an email the site is www.12voltguy.com

[crawlerdan [OP]]

Wasnt it a PITA to get stuff  in your tub with the window stuck up? or did you have it stuck down with the top always off??

i removed the window motor, and slid the window up and down by hand, yes, a pita

[attitude of gratitude]

Look at the control box behind the panel of the drivers side seat belt. Should be a brown box, that's about 3x4. Disconnect it and open it. Probally will be all kinds of green fuzz on the circuit panel.

[attitude of gratitude]

The control box has the grounding circuit in it. If you are supplying 12v at the switch and it works, you have completely eliminated anything wrong in the tailgate. I had the same problem with mine!

[crawlerdan [OP]]

Look at the control box behind the panel of the drivers side seat belt. Should be a brown box, that's about 3x4. Disconnect it and open it. Probally will be all kinds of green fuzz on the circuit panel.

then you think this is the issue?? i dont see whay everlthing would work except the wiper....im confused i guess, ill look into it, thanks for the tip man!

[attitude of gratitude]

Look at the circuit panel when you get it out. It'll have Green fuzz "resistance" or look for a burnt circuit. I'm pretty confident that this is your problem. Roger Brown  aka 4crawler.com has an article on it. Shows how to bypass it and other stuff. About 90% of 4runner tailgate issues are with that box or a broken wire at the harness between the tailgate and body.

[lilbuddy]

I was thinking it may just be the switch that says the window is not all the way up and if thats the case it wont turn on.

[crawlerdan [OP]]

I was thinking it may just be the switch that says the window is not all the way up and if thats the case it wont turn on.

theer is a switch, in the tail gate, that throws a relay when the window is fully up, this switch is working. so that isnt the problem, but similar symptoms

[crawlerdan [OP]]

well, first, my hats off to "Attitude of Grattitude"

man, i went and took out that reley box and cleaned it up-everything works, infact the second i installed the box the wiper came on because the switch was in the on position

im thrilled, thansk man@!  have a few on me!!!

[AaronB]

well, first, my hats off to "Attitude of Grattitude"

man, i went and took out that reley box and cleaned it up-everything works, infact the second i installed the box the wiper came on because the switch was in the on position

im thrilled, thansk man@!  have a few on me!!!

ill have to check mine

[attitude of gratitude]

Cool!!

[Volcom]

Good thread!  My back window worked in my 84 4Runner up to a couple of months ago but it's not working anymore.  I have a new tailgate to replace my dented one.  I'll be swapping all my stuff over and then troubleshooting it to see why it's not working.

[crawlerdan [OP]]

permanent solution located here!!  http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=43836.msg547310;topicseen#msg547310

[weirdtimes_7]

Nice thread, this is going to help me out a lot when i go to buy a 4runner, thanks ya'll for the excelent information

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