Topic: 22r/22re/22rte?? Which motor?

[Cheesemaker]

Well, I've been trying to get my motor running!  I haven't gotten very far, life, cold weather, and my job have not helped one bit! 

But here's the scoop!

I've got the 22rte motor with 202,000 hard miles!  It's got a new head some miles back!  The truck has been sitting for 3 years!  It tries to fire, but I get about 3 to 5 ignites and then nothing!  Then it won't fire at all!  It has a electrical draw somewhere, the battery will be dead the next morn!  I bought this truck with the idea that it may need a rebuilt motor!  Well, I've been checking on rebuilt prices!  To replace and rebuild the motor/turbo is not cheap!  So, I've seriously been thinking about putting a 22re in!  So, what is interchangeable between the 22re and the rte?  So, will I have to do a whole ecm, wire harness, intake, fuel pump and etc. swap?  Has anybody done this?  I would love to go 3rz, but I feel that would be beyond my abilities right now!  Maybe the next truck!  Any input would be helpful!   

I'd be willing to go to a 22r and just simplify the whole engine compartment and get it down the basics!  I love carb'd motors they are so simple to work on!  I want to venture into some rock crawling, but not hardcore!  I want a truck that will do what I want it to do!  Haul brush, firewood, trail ride, DD, tow a  small trailer, minor rock crawling, go to sandlake?  What do ya'll think! 

I want to get this truck running soon, but I don't want to do a half-ass job!  I want to do this right!  Taxes are coming in the next couple weeks!  So, I have some $ to spend!  So, some of your ideas would be helpful! 

Thanks~

[Rocksurfer]

22rte won't be much of an advatage offroad since it kicks in at about 2500rpm but put that thing on a highway and even with 33's or 35's and the right gearing they move. One time at the 4Runner Jamboree someone broke a rear u-joint and I drove him from Gorman to Bakersfield and back. He had a 3.0 and commented that I had more power than he did.

[Cheesemaker [OP]]

Yeah, turbo's on the highway would be cool, but I want to try to simplify things.  From what I've been told the ct20's are not a very good turbo!  I just can't verify spending $2000 for a 22rte rebuilt motor, when I can get a 22re rebuilt motor for 1/2 that!  Then getting the turbo rebuilt or replaced is another grand!  This is why I want to go 22re.  I just need to know what is interchangable and isn't!  I don't have a local toyota dealership to visit.  I would like to get this ironed out soon!  So, I can get on the net and start searching for parts! 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!

[8D3TOY]

I often debate the 22r vs. 22RTE for an eventual swap.  Seems to me that th RTE is going to be more $$ to get set up with a better turbo(appearantly the factory one is no good) but if you already have it you are ahead of the game,but for me to rebuild it right with all the good parts it just wont make much sense!!!  1/2 the cash into a 22re and you can have a great motor!

[kneedownnate]

Then getting the turbo rebuilt or replaced is another grand! 

Not when you snag a ct26 off a supra from the junk yard for chump change   I hafta think you can get a rebuild for far less than 2 grand, I thought the most substantial difference in the blocks is lower compression

[Hottrod81]

I also thought about the Turbo motor.  I don't think it really has a good advantage on the trails.  My vote would be for a 22RE.

[Cheesemaker [OP]]

I just found a guy that is selling his rig on CL and he had a turbo motor and switched to a 22re!  He had enginebuilder build a motor for him!  He said it all switched over, just have to build a motor that can handle the larger injectors!  So, it sounds like my plan will be to get a 22re and get the smaller injectors!  Because, I don't want to go stroker, which basically sounds like what I'd have to do!  More research is needed!

[robrub00]

x2 on the ct26 of a supra, why would the engine rebuilt cost more for the 22rte than the 22re 22re they are the same block just different pistons.  atre you planning on buying a used 22re? as for differencesthere is a oil hole drilled for the turbo on the block. the head is a little different i think. but it shouldnt be hard to get it going. the ecu is different I think the harness is pined out different too.  you could sell the harness and ecu on ebay they are hard to find.  i think the afm is different too. if you sold the ct20 the manifold the wiring harness and the ecu and the fance turbo guage clusted you could probably sell that for more than the 22re counter parts.  but it all depends what you want the outcome to be.

[Cheesemaker [OP]]

I feel that having the turbo motor setup, is not beneficial for me!  The only times I would need the turbo setup, would be in the mountain passes.  But, I talked to Skinny Pedal and he had a truck that had the turbo motor setup, and converted it over to a 22re.  He said he basically just swapped out the motor.  Reused the turbo afm, tps, intake, and ecm.  I figured it would be easy, just had to look for somebody that had done this swap!  I'm not looking for a whoa-nelly motor, just a solid, reliable motor setup!

[4x4Haze]

Ive got a truck with a 22r and i had one with the 22re and i wish i still had that motor itll give you all you need, its a strong motor i beat mine to hell and it never quit