thanks for the warm welcome. nice rig crawler dan. Im always waiting to see someone one the road and online but rarely yet. hehe cheesemaker, haha, it sounds funny when you say it out loud, cheese maker, lol. (not trying to be rude, just like them name, it makes me think about the note on someones marlin package from tilly saying send cheese. i dunno if its you or not). and how far nor cal? I like to consider northern cali as southern oregon and washington just north oregon. were all the same. i went to highschool in ashland for a couple years. I can't wait to not just watch turttle land but be part of it. thanks again