Timing on my 85 efi is around 20(w/jumper) with no pinging at 7000ft on 89 octane 15-30 degree air temp, 16(w/jumper) at 1500ft and 87octane 40-65 air temp is nice and peppy. 5 runs ok at idle, but has no power... 18-20 at 1500ft misses at idle. my 84 carb pings like a mofo after 10 on 87 octane at 1500ft