thanx for posting up this thread bigmike.I think it does not matter what us wheelers drive,(wether its a yota,jeep,ford,chevy or even a hunk of junk.) we should all just stick together and make a difference in the 4x world, rather than hate on someone or their rig.maybe sometimes people are envious of others,I to sometimes feel envious of others, but that just makes me think "damn, I got some work to do to make my toy better".Any way,let's stop the hate, and increase the 4wheeling.besides, we are all into the same sport and love it!