Ya, I thought about that. I'm waiting to get a tubing bender. Man are they pricey! I don't mind spending $299 on a bender. Its the dies that are crazy, over $200 a piece. I want a 1.75 and 1.5" die. I really like marlins bumpers, but it seems like that is all you see. I just want to build something different. For the price he charges, you can't really go wrong. 1.5" DOM tubing .120 wall, around here cost $3.40 per foot. If you add the price of steel and the cost of a bender and dies, I see why every goes that route.