Ok I get what you are saying, I cut my leaves down today so they have some stagger but I think my last leaf is like 18 inches maybe. So I think I will throw in anther leaf, perhaps the 2nd leaf of the f-150s cut down to around 12 inches. Also I got all new polyurethane bushing, I had to burn out the old front spring hanger bushings but that left just the sleeve. The sleeve needs to be removed to get the new bushings in, I've done this before on my rear pack and used a sazall. This was a pain in the ass, I tried using a air hammer with a chisel bit on it today at work but that didn't work. So I was wondering if there is any other ways to get it out? thanks again for the help guys ill get a pic up tomorrow of my new spring pack.