no prob bigmike I'll get those measurements tomorrow. On the other hand yes my rear brakes are working. The front shackle I'm running is the (I'll double check with measurements tomorrow) 5" eye to eye I had stock rear ones at first and they didn't work for me due to very limited travel. Only ran them for less than a day. I'm going to be converting my front shackle to a through the frame setup before I put the new springs on. My measurement though front hanger eye to shackle eye should be very close to the same jig/tube setup you have with the SAS kit.