well bigmike not to bash on the spring but I honestly think I got a bad set of US springs. My runner is no heavier than anyone elses. i lost all of the lift in the springs and they are flat now just like my Asian made ones were. They lost their lift the very first run at Moab. Just ask blackdiamond. I wasn't hard on my springs down there. I have a winch bumper that i built on my truck but its nothing that should make the springs go flat. The rear springs are still arched but only about 2 to 3 inches Max over a stock springs. I had to put 9 inch shackles to keep enouch lift to clear my 37's just enough. I sent you the email that Steve should have had yesterday. I hope we can figure something out. I put your company in very high regards and know you will help me solve this problem.