Man, I can back jim on this one bigtime. We unfortunately use the orbitals at work and they drop like flies! We have a $1,000 battery tester (why I don't know), and we checked all the orbitals I labeled bad this year at the end of the season. I am essentially fully responsable for all our batteries, so there was no real chance of other people sneaking batteries in without me knowing what was giong on. Every single one failed totally, along with 2 new ones off the shelf! Some would charge up to 12 volts but couldn't hold a load. They are really good at dropping a cell, dunno why but they do. If your friends get away without problems with theirs I say
![Fingers Crossed :crossed:](https://board.marlincrawler.com/Smileys/marlin/crossed.gif)
and good luck, but I wouldn't steal one.
And rockdiver, I saw in your thread you carry a load tester and one of those little compact jumper packs in your rig. What'ya do for a living.