Author Topic: torn frame... what do you do (Read 5361 times)

*** YELLER *** · « **on:** Jul 06, 2009, 06:03:06 PM »

OK long story short I tore the frame rear spring hanger both sides....

I know in hind site I should have boxed it in but since I didnt

what should I do to fix it

Plate it with what I have or get some box tubing and stick a chunk of it in there and weld her back together

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 06, 2009, 06:11:14 PM »

HOLY CRAP

Yeller thats got to be boxed in grind all that rusty booger weld off and get it sorta clean then box it all the way from the rear cross member to the shackle hanger

joey0712 · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 06, 2009, 06:25:19 PM »

Run a piece of rectangular tube all the way across and plate it in where it meets the frame.

Slolyfe · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 06, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »

Shoot Dave. It didnt look that bad at the Rim Trail. Did you wheel more after I left?

EarlKann · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 06, 2009, 10:13:26 PM »

A piece of 2x4 rectangular tubing will fit inside the frame rail. I would cut off the damaged part and put in a new frame extension. Here's mine. I still need to put some gussets on it and an extra plate on the bottom to make a level place to mount the spring hanger. I'm going to add a cross member at the back as well.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 07, 2009, 04:13:34 PM »

yeller I got box mine maybe this weekend

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 07, 2009, 05:20:06 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Jul 06, 2009, 06:11:14 PM

HOLY CRAP Yeller thats got to be boxed in grind all that rusty booger weld off and get it sorta clean then box it all the way from the rear cross member to the shackle hanger

booger weld was not mine and thanks Glen

Quote from: joey0712 on Jul 06, 2009, 06:25:19 PM

Run a piece of rectangular tube all the way across and plate it in where it meets the frame.

I'll have to look into that I have a box there now, I need to see if there is room

Quote from: slolyfe on Jul 06, 2009, 09:15:59 PM

Shoot Dave. It didnt look that bad at the Rim Trail. Did you wheel more after I left?

Um... Kinda played follow the leader with Jud and Matt and Steve and.....

Quote from: EarlKann on Jul 06, 2009, 10:13:26 PM

A piece of 2x4 rectangular tubing will fit inside the frame rail. I would cut off the damaged part and put in a new frame extension. Here's mine. I still need to put some gussets on it and an extra plate on the bottom to make a level place to mount the spring hanger. I'm going to add a cross member at the back as well.

Cool but I dont have that much acess to the rear of the frame, maybe I can slide a piece in the end and weld her up real good

THANKS GUYS

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 10, 2009, 03:43:46 PM »

Quote from: EarlKann on Jul 06, 2009, 10:13:26 PM

A piece of 2x4 rectangular tubing will fit inside the frame rail. I would cut off the damaged part and put in a new frame extension. Here's mine. I still need to put some gussets on it and an extra plate on the bottom to make a level place to mount the spring hanger. I'm going to add a cross member at the back as well.

maybe my 87 is different than what yer working on but the frame rail is only 3"...... found that out after I got some 2X6 rec. tubing cut to 4"... I should have checked

edit: the Marlin bumper bracket is in the way

as far as cutting off anything

unless I take off the runner body that aint gona happen

what i will do is clean up the affected area and slide the 2X6X4 into the end of the frame and weld away, I may need to remove the tailgate to do so but if I gotta... I gotta

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:27:51 AM »

step 1. weld frame where its torn
step 2. box 2X6 cut open
step 3. weld to frame above hanger
step 4. weld everywhere it could tear again
~~step 5. hope it all holds together~~

ninja turtle · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:36:59 AM »

Quote from: ** YELLER** on Jul 11, 2009, 08:27:51 AM

step 5. hope it all holds together

i am not a fan of step 5.

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:43:54 AM »

Quote from: no-idea on Jul 11, 2009, 08:36:59 AM

i am not a fan of step 5.

neither am I but if it happened once then...

here ya go Sean as you can see the box is in the way fer a crossmember from rail to rail, but what if I used a piece of thick tubing to go from the bumper mount to the other bumper mount and use the bracket as a crossmember as close to trhe box as I can get and weld her up there

ninja turtle · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:51:15 AM »

i see room behind the box

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:54:07 AM »

Quote from: no-idea on Jul 11, 2009, 08:51:15 AM

i see room behind the box

yea me too now that you said that, Im gonna weld it all up and box it all in and run a tube(all I have) crossmember from bumper mount to bumper mount and weld it all up nice and tight

ninja turtle · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:56:07 AM »

now cross off step 5.

tryn2Crawl · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 09:29:22 AM »

Turn it into a TRUGGY!!!!!

EarlKann · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 09:39:08 AM »

Quote from: ** YELLER** on Jul 10, 2009, 03:43:46 PM

maybe my 87 is different than what yer working on but the frame rail is only 3"...... found that out after I got some 2X6 rec. tubing cut to 4"... I should have checked

edit: the Marlin bumper bracket is in the way

as far as cutting off anything unless I take off the runner body that aint gona happen what i will do is clean up the affected area and slide the 2X6X4 into the end of the frame and weld away, I may need to remove the tailgate to do so but if I gotta... I gotta

DOH!

My fault, it must be 2x3 tubing.

I didn't buy it, someone gave it to me. Sorry about that.

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 11:32:43 AM »

ok

welded all the cracks up
caped up the end of the frame
welded a piece of tube to the bumper hangers
welded the shackle hangers to the tube

Im positive it should hold

everything is welded to each other and the only thing I have to do is plate the inside of the frame (no steel)
then it should not break again... not that its gonna but better safe than sorry(again)

*FFC* · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 08:43:50 PM »

No more \ \ shackles

ninja turtle · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 11, 2009, 11:26:01 PM »

i think it'll be

once its done

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 12, 2009, 10:23:52 AM »

all i have to say is atleast you got metal on your frame to weld stuff to

Tallchevy · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 12, 2009, 10:39:54 PM »

How about using some channel. You could weld it in place then drill the holes to mount the bumper brackets back on.

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 12, 2009, 10:49:59 PM »

Quote from: EarlKann on Jul 06, 2009, 10:13:26 PM

A piece of 2x4 rectangular tubing will fit inside the frame rail. I would cut off the damaged part and put in a new frame extension. Here's mine. I still need to put some gussets on it and an extra plate on the bottom to make a level place to mount the spring hanger. I'm going to add a cross member at the back as well.

i would do what he did

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 13, 2009, 03:27:16 PM »

Quote from: Tallchevy on Jul 12, 2009, 10:39:54 PM

How about using some channel. You could weld it in place then drill the holes to mount the bumper brackets back on.

if I had acess to the frame like I wish I had

I would but since I had to remove the tailgate to do what I did

I dont see it happening, this will work

thanks

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on Jul 12, 2009, 10:49:59 PM

i would do what he did

so would I if I took the runner body off the frame but since that aint gonna happen.....

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 13, 2009, 09:07:42 PM »

Quote from: ** YELLER** on Jul 13, 2009, 03:27:16 PM

if I had acess to the frame like I wish I had I would but since I had to remove the tailgate to do what I did I dont see it happening, this will work thanks

so would I if I took the runner body off the frame but since that aint gonna happen.....

i would still be redoin the frame in a similar way

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 14, 2009, 03:22:48 PM »

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on Jul 13, 2009, 09:07:42 PM

i would still be redoin the frame in a similar way

thats great

in a perfect world we would all do alot of things different but since Im not gonna REMOVE THE BODY its gonna ave to work

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